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Discussion in 'The Hokey Ass Message Board' started by putz, Jan 20, 2022.
looking glass for my pu which is chopped , any info. on available ?
If it's flat glass , make a template and go to a glass shop and have it made.
I use laminated glass for all windows.
The windshield on my 27 tub was $130.00
I'm sure you can have tempered glass made for your custom but you're going to pay up $ucker...
Like dirt t said. You might call the shop and discuss first.
What year/make/model is the truck? Most flat glass hot rods have dual pane safety glass, which is the kind with the laminate in the middle. Most new cars have tempered glass which is the kind that explodes into tiny pieces when you bump it.
I'm getting clear tempered glass all around the coupe. Its 1/4" thick.
Dual pane safety glass, just cut to a template.
I’m thinking I would want laminate in the windshield. Other glass no matter. Tempered windshield
If hit by a rock could shatter and give you a face full.
Laminated glass is better for use in vehicles than tempered. The main reason car makers went to tempered for everything but the windshield was weight savings since tempered can be made thinner than laminated.
One benefit to laminated that a lot of people don't realize is that it blocks almost all UV radiation. Standard or tempered blocks UV-B and UV-C, but transmits about 75% of UV-A while laminated blocks all 3 in the 98-99% range. UV-A travels thru the atmosphere much more effectively than B or C and causes more damage both to your skin and to your cars interior.
A lot of newer stuff is going laminate on the door glass also.
I had tempered glass made for my car. Don't like having a crack in the door glass if someone slams it.
If glass isn't touching metal, and the edges are properly beveled and polished, it shouldn't break when you slam the door.
They went to tempered glass for safety reasons. The US retained laminated glass for windshields for several reasons that aren't shared elsewhere. One, it won't shatter and helps prevent debris from coming inside the vehicle. It also helps to keep the occupants inside the vehicle in the event of an accident. All tempered glass including the windshield is common other places, just not here. Tempered glass has been required for vehicle rear windows in the US since the '40s. If you're installing laminated glass in rear windows, you're technically violating the motor vehicle laws.
The safety reason is in the event of an accident if the laminated safety glass (or even just a piece of it) is displaced from its mounting you now have a sharp-edged object possibly flying around inside the car. If it's broken (as would be likely), the multiple sharp edges will make mincemeat of the passengers. Tempered glass shatters into small pieces, at worst presenting a minor cut chance.
If you want tempered glass, most any glass shop can have it made for you. It will cost more, but not horribly more as long as it's flat glass.
post pics of your chopped project
I believe the process for getting custom tempered windows is (for flat glass) your glass guy/shop cuts the windows from a sheet of untempered glass. He fully finishes with sanded and polished edges. Then it is sent out for tempering. After that you can install the now tempered windows.
I just use laminated for all my flat glass, windshield or doors, or back.
I've been doing tempered glass in my cars for 25 years. Side and rear glass only. Used to get it done by a place in CA called the Glass House. They have a new name now and I will get that tomorrow. Never had a problem with it although you better make sure your pattern is right cause as far as I know there's no grinding tempered to fit? I experienced no appreciable cost increase in cost with tempered over laminate.
Most later model windscreens are laminated because the front screen is part of the structural integrity of the roof since they went to thinner 'A' pillars. Side glass is tempered so that it will shatter without sharp edges if your head or body comes into contact with it in an accident or so it can be smashed externally if rescue of the occupants is required.
1. Make a template if able. (If unable, take pickup to glass shop).
2. Take template to glass shop. Preferably a specialist car windscreen type shop.
over here it has to have the correct markings on it for safety, and be minimum thickness and type. So you may have to check what your local rules are, - if any.
a couple of years back, I wanted glass cut, so I took an exact template of 4mm MDF , and took it to the glass shop.
Simple really, - well not quite, they had to have 3 attempts to get it correct, (something about resizing on the computer). But they did, eventually cutting it by hand to get the accuracy that I wanted.
3 pieces for my coupe around $100 NZ. Cheap as well.
A good glazier is who you need to talk to. There will be laws governing what glass you can use, and where it can be used. Just as an example, the laminated safety glass used in windshields is not the same laminated glass used in the building industry. Automotive laminated glass is made to a different recipe, has a thicker pvb interlayer, and can be heat treated for strength. There is more to it than most people think. Go and get the right advice from the right place. Normal laminated glass should not be used, even in side windows.
I am a trade qualified glazier by the way, but I did say to talk to a good one........
Plus over here the glass has to have the certification water mark.
I like to use tempered in my custom builds, as well. The Glass House in CA, does a great job when you provide accurate templates. Use laminated for the front windshield, though.
The problem I've found, here in NJ, with local glass shops, is they don't send out small quantities of glass to be tempered. So, if they aren't sending out a big batch, you have to wait a long time. Most don't even want to do small batches.
Find yourself a door or window company that buys direct from glass supplier, ask them if you give them a pattern would they get you a tempered piece. Prices from supplier or 1/2 of what shops usually charge.Cost difference between annealed and tempered is not much
You may be able to get the side glass with a slight tint. I had new side tempered glass done for an early Holden Ute. It was done with slight green tinted glass and the edges beveled. The glass mob (O'brien's Glass, Australia) also supplied the natural rubber for the bottom track and fitted the tracks. 18 years later they were still working beautifully.
I gave them an old side glass and quarter glass to use as templates. Same with the front screen. Used old glass as templates but did them in laminate with a slight tinted band at the top. At car shows people would ask how many wrecks I went through to find such good glass. I'd tell them how I did it and they'd say "Oh, I wouldn't spend that sort of money just for glass". They spend big money on paint jobs or on the period correct picnic set to display in the trunk but put scratched, shitty opaque glass back in.
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