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Tech: (simple) Olds water crossover

Discussion in 'The Hokey Ass Message Board' started by Paul, Dec 15, 2008.

  1. Paul
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    the aftermarket manifold I'm using on my '50 Olds 303 did not come with a water crossover, the only aftermarket water crossover I have won't fit with the setup I'm running and I didn't want to use a remote thermostat, so I thought I might just make one.

    I started by gathering up some scrap plate and straight pipe, and bought some weldable 90's, picked a thermostat housing that was small and had the neck at the right angle.

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    I'm using 3/8" plate for the therostat flange so using the thermostat housing as a pattern I layed out the hole centers

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    and took it to the drill press, first using a hole saw with the outside diameter the same as the outside diameter of the thermostat, drilling down about the thickness of the thermostat flange, then switching to a smaller hole saw with an outside diameter about the same as the inside diameter of the first holesaw and drilled all the way through the plate leaving a shallow step for the thermostat flange to set in.

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  2. Paul
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    next I put a 1/8" drill bit in the drill press and ran a couple pilot holes through the plate at the bolt centers,

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    followed by a 5/16"

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    and tapped them with a 3/8" coarse tap

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    bolted the thermostat housing to the flange and traced out the outline of the flange

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    then I used the bandsaw to roughcut the flange out and the Suzy Homemaker disc sander to clean up the sawn edge

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  3. Paul
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    next is the body for the thermostat to set in,
    using 2" ID pipe I chopped a piece of scrap just long enough to fit the smaller pipe "arms" to

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    cut a piece of 3/16" plate to close up the bottom, tack it in place, welded it and cleaned it up a bit.

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  4. Paul
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    I had a couple of the rear water block-off/heater hose connector plates that I had already opened up for some 1" copper pipe on my temporary water crossover so I scavenged them and will reuse them here.

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    so with some carefull eyeballing and minimal measuring I cut and trimmed two of the elbows and a short length of pipe to make the first "arm" and tacked it together,

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    traced around the pipe on the housing body, blew a hole with the electric torch, cleaned it a bit with a file and tacked the new arm to the body

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  5. Paul
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    then I bolted it to the head and repeated the process for the other arm, tacked it together and welded it all up, checking and rechecking fit all the way

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    ground the welds smooth and shot some paint on it

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  6. Paul
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    bought a molded hose with an elbow about the right angle
    that I cut out of it and spliced to a flexible hose the right length
    and connected it all up,
    installed a new thermostat and topped the coolant off,
    fired it up and checked for leaks,
    all was tight and it came up to temp nicely and held it just fine.

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    I've had it on the road for only a few hours since and it seems to be very well behaved and I think it looks way better than what I had in there before

    I still may look for a flex hose with the 45 built in eventualy...
     
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  7. Roothawg
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    Looks good Paul.
     
  8. That is just about the neatest thing I have seen in a while.
     
  9. Pir8Darryl
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    You do some nice clean work my friend!
     
  10. saltflatmatt
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    That's GREAT !!!
     
  11. Clever, no need for high-tech machining tools.
     
  12. chaddilac
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    Wow Paul... that's very cool!

    Is that a 4-71, what olds engine is that?
     
  13. Paul
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    you could do this to relocate your thermostat on other motors too, Nailheads, Cadillacs and Studebakers would be perfect candidates
     
  14. Paul
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    yes on a 1950 303
     
  15. Michael_e
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    Paul, I always watch for your tech posts. They are great and show that you don't need a huge shop full of expensive tools to get the job done, just common sense.

    Thanks,

    Mike
     
  16. 6deucecaddy
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    Verrrrrry cool. Looks real good. I was actually looking for a water cross over for my 394 OLDS for over a year. I finally did find one but the guy wanted $500 bucks. Now all I have to spend is $20 or less. Thanks for the great idea.
     
  17. aerorocket
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    from N.E. P.A.

    Real nice job, great looking engine, but you need a traditional looking radiator cap. Ha Ha!
     
  18. skunx1964
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  19. Mart
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  20. thebrassnuckles
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    i am definitely not seeing pics.
     
  21. Road_Rage_Rube
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    either do I!! I want to see the pics!!!
     
  22. Paul
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    well I'll be dipped in dog shit, I don't know what went haywire...

    I'll try to fix it..
     
  23. I see them just fine.
     
  24. Paul
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    they do seem to be working now...
     
  25. buick320a
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    from indiana

    How come when I click on the red X in the photo box nothing happens ?
     
  26. excellent work yet again. that looks way better than the x's i was looking at earlier. i always like checking out your tech posts and have defiantly learned a lot along the way! thanks agian and i look forward to whatever is next haha

    keith
     
  27. Royalshifter
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    Paul that came out beautiful.
     
  28. stude_trucks
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    Dang, that almost looks "professional" and at least 20X better than I could do. With my crap welding skills, there is no way I could get that to fit properly and not leak like a fountain at Disney Land. Very nice?
     
  29. ratster
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    great tech bro
     
  30. plym49
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    from Earth

    I will get in line with the praise.

    This, to me, is what hot rodding is all about. Using metal to make parts.
     

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