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Tech: No more wheel weights...

Discussion in 'The Hokey Ass Message Board' started by CLSSY56, Mar 3, 2008.

  1. CLSSY56
    Joined: Dec 19, 2002
    Posts: 1,219


    I have no affiliation with them, looks like one heck of a product though. I plan on using them on my 56 when I put my WWW tires on. Found out about these when we bought a new '07 F450 this past year for our family business, as Ford was installing these or similar at the time.
  2. denis4x4
    Joined: Apr 23, 2005
    Posts: 3,766

    from Colorado

    The guys at So-Cal in Phoenix swear by this product. I think they even stock it.
  3. Tman
    Joined: Mar 2, 2001
    Posts: 34,646


    Interesting, thanks I bookmarked it.
  4. This has been discussed. I don't think it balances as much as it is a harmonic balancer. The concept isn't new. I've got an old set of JC Whitney balancers like that. 4X4 guys have been putting golf balls in their tires for the same affect for years.

  5. DrJ
    Joined: Mar 3, 2001
    Posts: 9,418


    Do these things rattle around in the bottom of the tire like a bunch of loose marbles when you're just cruising the diner parking lot?
    Do they have to redistribute themselves after every friggin stop?
    Fine for a long distance highway semi truck but doesn't sound too practicle on a city stop & go vehicle.

    I'm thinking this is like magnets in the gas line gives better mileage shtuff.

    And can you get them into the tube in the bias ply tire?
  6. So does it work? anyone try them??
  7. Skankin' Rat Fink
    Joined: Jun 18, 2006
    Posts: 1,584

    Skankin' Rat Fink
    from NYC

    Will they work in tube tires?
  8. the FAQ says they work in tubes.
  9. shook
    Joined: Mar 19, 2006
    Posts: 137

    from austin, tx
    </dd><dd>When you come to a stop, do the beads fall to the bottom of the tire? Yes. Due to a small static charge built up between the bead and rubber interaction, a few will remain attached to the tire circumference, but only a very small amount. The rest fall to the bottom and reposition themselves when the tire starts rolling again.
    </dd><dd>Will I hear the beads while driving? No. In the driveway, however, you may hear them rolling around if you move the tire.
    </dd><dd>At what speed do the beads start to work? The balancing principle is based on centrifigal force, and enough force is developed to keep the beads in position at approximately 25 - 35 MPH, but the exact speed is dependant upon tire diameter.
  10. rd martin
    Joined: Nov 14, 2006
    Posts: 2,449

    rd martin
    from indiana

    buddy of mine is into the early american wheels from the 60s had a set polished up for his hotrod always had a vibration not real bad but could feel it all the time. had wheels rebalanced several times by diff. people suggestion came up to try the beads he did he said that it cured the problem he has noticed at times he may feel it alittle when tires are cold but few miles down the road its gone as soon as tires warm up a little bit its worth a shot its not a lot of money and if you take it out it justs falls out like sand when you brake down the tire
  11. Mr48chev
    Joined: Dec 28, 2007
    Posts: 29,745


    I agree with RD Martin, It isn't very spendy if you do it yourself. around 20 bucks to do a street car including shipping so that won't break most banks.
  12. Tman
    Joined: Mar 2, 2001
    Posts: 34,646


    Wasnt there some form of liquid that did the same thing on the market?
  13. Jalopy Joker
    Joined: Sep 3, 2006
    Posts: 27,200

    Jalopy Joker

    Price list per bag/wheel that I missed?
  14. dickster27
    Joined: Feb 28, 2004
    Posts: 3,198

    from Texas

    But...but...but.....gosh, is it "traditional"?
  15. zman
    Joined: Apr 2, 2001
    Posts: 16,594

    from Garner, NC

    Uhhh... gotta call bullshit on this one... it'll dampen vibration, it'll balance if kept at a constant speed (no acceleration, no braking), but it will not balance the tires...
    Joined: Oct 6, 2007
    Posts: 700


    We tried to sell this system and we didn't have any luck. Due to the cost involved we could not give it free with each tire sold like we do with stick on weights. Customers were apprehensive about putting something inside their tires and having to pay for it. No amount of selling techniques could convince them to do that. I personally think it has more pluses than negatives but the public just doesn't seem to be ready for it yet. Thanks, BOBBY FORD
  17. zman
    Joined: Apr 2, 2001
    Posts: 16,594

    from Garner, NC

    I'm wondering what the plusses are... it's merely a harmonic balancer or vibration damnpner. It does not balance the tires unless you keep it at a steady speed, neither speeding up or slowing down. You cannot change the laws of physics...
  18. FiddyFour
    Joined: Dec 31, 2004
    Posts: 9,008


    i have driven trucks (semi) with this shit rollin around in the tires, and i can tell you first hand, its shit. the shit cakes up, thumps around, gives steering shimmy and vibration at any given speed... first time ya leave a light, it'll shake at 34mph... next time it wont till over 60mph... not worth it.

    having said all that, in a smaller car tire/wheel? might work. but i wont be trying it.
  19. Spedley
    Joined: Mar 5, 2004
    Posts: 392


    I run these beads in my fancy bling bling 20" wheels on my daily so I wouldnt have to put weights on the outside of the rim. They work ok, balance the whole rotating assembly, brakes, rim, tire...... I always thought they stayed in place until u beat the tire with a hammer to knock em down to rebalance..... which I have had to do a few times. They balance ok sometimes, then not so hot the next.... If I was gonna do it again, think I'd just get stick on weights for the inside of the rim........
  20. really hope someone comes up with something because they are trying like hell to outlaw lead wheel weights as they are considered "hazarous" when they fall off wheels yet not sitting in a box at the tire shop.
  21. Bought a set of Coker radials- 2 0f them WOULD NOT balance, period. bought some "balancing beads." Tires are now in perfect balance at speed, no weights. I'll never pay for a spin balance again...
  22. wakeboarder311
    Joined: Aug 12, 2007
    Posts: 10

    from ohio

    i have used golf balls in my tires on my daily driver. its a chevy z71 and my buddies dad uses them on all their dump trucks without any problems
  23. autobilly
    Joined: May 23, 2007
    Posts: 3,094


    Gotta go with Zman on this one. Besides whats wrong with wheel weights on steel wheels, they've always been there.
  24. Dirty2
    Joined: Jun 13, 2004
    Posts: 8,903


    Nice tech .
  25. zman
    Joined: Apr 2, 2001
    Posts: 16,594

    from Garner, NC

    It's fine with me, but don't try to pass it off as balancing your tires.

    Do I detect sarcasm? :D
  26. FiddyFour
    Joined: Dec 31, 2004
    Posts: 9,008


    i love the smell of a pithy comment in the evening
  27. zbuickman
    Joined: Dec 9, 2007
    Posts: 466


    Im with the majority here.... Ive run them as well worked good most of the time but in city driving pot holes would some time knock them out. Untill you stopped or went a few miles
  28. Scott
    Joined: Dec 23, 2004
    Posts: 2,729


    I used some stuff called balance seal years ago on my sportster. On a cold morning it was like you had square tires for a couple of miles. then it really smoothed out. I think it also helped with punctures etc
  29. lostn51
    Joined: Jan 24, 2008
    Posts: 1,667


    my buddy has a dodge ram 4x4 (the ram emblem on the grille comes to the top of my head and im 5'9") with the biggest tires i have ever seen and he put 30lbs of sand in each one of them to balance it. they vibrate a little on take off but does great once you get going.

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