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Discussion in 'The Hokey Ass Message Board' started by tfeverfred, Aug 12, 2017.
You can use a gasket punch or a leather punch if you have access to one!
Layout the pattern of pleats, rolls or other material pattern on the panel. THEN lay out the screw placement so they complement each other.
Drill the screw holes in the panel, then do the material. Staple or glue the material down and poke through the holes from the back side with a punch or awl.
This creates an opening in th4e padding and the material and shows where the screws go from the front.
Great tip, Rod!
Another good idea! Thanks!
Ups, it was a combination of factors. The main one was I simply got bored with it. Yes, as much as I loved it, I found myself coming up with reasons not to drive it. I blamed weather... too hot, too cold, looks like rain, etc. Towards the end, I had gotten a welding job and the hours were very long and sometimes 6 days a week, so being too tired became an excuse.
Then, one day, I sat down and remembered all the things I had wanted to redo or make it better. I came to the conclusion that the cure was to take all I'd learned in the 6-7 years of driving it and just build another one, only better. I knew I didn't need 2 cars, so I sold it. Paid off a few bills. Took a short vacation and began to formulate a plan. I spent a few months reading about and looking at what appealed to me in other peoples builds.
But the one thing that stuck, out of all that reading, was comfort. I had gotten used to sitting in my T Bucket, but I knew the only way to get lower and increase leg room was to get a stretched body. I knew CCR offered one and I knew the price was high, but the body I had before was theirs and I knew the quality was top shelf. No reinforcement needed and they increased the length in the cabin and cowl. So, the proportions look good. That's when I called CCR and made plans to get their stretched body.
I think I'm a little OCD. Once I put my mind on something, it kicks into overdrive. That's why I tend to over think some things. It took me 2 months to decide between wish bones or radius rods! Not having the money to buy a lot of parts all at once, gives me a lot of time to obsess the next steps.
I was bopping around on Amazon looking for a memory foam cushion for my daily truck since it's not super comfortable on long hauls and I came across a bunch of simple cushions. They make a fair number of outdoor cushions of various sizes, shapes, and colors. There are HUNDREDS of them in all shapes and sizes.
This one in particular jumped out at me because it's 16" square and would fit into the seats I made with my brake. These might be a good option for guys with pretty minimal seats and upholstery aspirations/budget.
Pat, that's almost cool enough to use as is! In a pinch.... a couple plywood pieces, 4 of those and roll on, baby! Thanks for the idea!
Fred , just noticed this thread.....it would fit right into your thread for the side and back maybe!!!
Thanks! Read it and book marked it! VERY informative.
Yeah, that's what I was thinking. The ones I posted are outdoor, so I would imagine they're fit for roadster duty without a re-cover. They're no-slip bottomed too so you might get away with just dropping them down and going.
The Black/Red works pretty nice in a lot of cars. Unfortunately that's about the only COOL color combo that particular cushion comes in! But the covers are removable via zipper for convenient templating and re-covering.
That looks nice, but it's a bit too plush (fancy) for me.
That overstuffed sofa look was popular and is a throwback to the days of those horribly ugly Fad T's of the 70s Fred and you do NOT want to go that way
When I first got into T Buckets, the "Fad style" T Bucket was awesome. Then, I grew up. Brings back some cool memories of reading "Rod Action" magazine, till the pages wore out. If I were building a "traditional" 70's T Bucket, I'd be all over that.
Been wanting a sofa like that lately, but thinking it would be a bitch to clean...I can only imagine what a pain it would be in a roadster.
I'm with you Fred I remember the period in the magazines too.
I'm just old enough that for me I was never able to embrace the fad t phase.
I don't think too many Ts are being built anymore to recreate that era.
I didn't like Fad Ts when they were the style! They make me cringe now!
Spirit has some nice seat inserts that fit like a couch
Whatever you do don't build anything that looks like this if you want any comfort.
Otherwise I have made my point.
Ran at lunch for some progress pics. Might be done next Thu, waiting on carpet to come in. Should be more comfortable than what it was, but this will never be a long distance car.
much better than the crumbling foam I had been sitting on...
Cover placed loosely on the bottom for pic, everything will match up and be tight when done. Black stitching between pleats on white.
Very nice. How'd you do the rear curve in the side panels?
Thanks. I'm having a shop do it, but I'll ask him the next time I talk to him. Looked like a heat-formed plastic.
Probably just like my side panels Fred.
I heat formed 1/8" ABS.
I then made and mounted arm rests which I'll upholster when I get there.
Mega cool! Thanks for the pics, Blue!
I'm coming back to this interior because the flaw I see is what made the seat in my first T Bucket, not as comfortable as it could have been. It appears that the back is straight up or horizontal. My old T Bucket seat was made using 2 side pieces from a folding boat seat. You can see one of the end pieces in the photo. The bottom was webbed and padded, on 3/4" plywood. The back was 3" foam on plywood. The back folded down and the whole thing lifted out. That bottom was great!
But the flaw in it was that the back didn't lean as far back as it could. In trying to save space, the back of the seat bottom was as close to the back of the body as I could get it. That kept the seat from using the 22 degree lay back that the side pieces had. The result was that I sat straight up. BUT.... since my car had a rake, I was actually sitting slightly forward as well! The rake enhanced the already flawed installation. I would scoot forward a bit, but even that sometimes didn't feel good. Basically, while my seat LOOKED comfortable, it sucked. It's amazing what you get used to and that's what I did for 6-7 years.
So, in my new build, I'm paying special attention on keeping that 22 degree angle in the seats. Since I'm going with a stretched body, I can afford to lose a few inches by moving the seat forward to keep that angle. But even if I had a standard body, I'd still try to keep that 22 degree angle. It's crucial to comfort.
Here's a new-guy question: How did you arrive at 22 degrees? Is that the standard?
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Maybe Fred came up with that through research and an analytical mind!?
I don't know if 22 degrees is any kind of standard or not but the the tilt of the lower cushion in a car like this is pretty important for comfort alright. My first roadster back in the early '70's was a '26-'27 style body, channelled at that. I used a bottom rear seat cushion from a '67 Mustang fastback and put it at a good tilt. (Stole the floor shifter too!) Legroom was still limited as I'm 6-2 but as I recall I still had decent thigh support even with my knees up around my earlobes!
Just another option to further widen the choices!
I looked at a gazillion seats and their technical crap. Some manufacturers mention it and some don't. 22 to 25 degrees was what I found to be the average. Some were more, some were less. The Corbeau seats are 30 degrees. Rotten Leonards are 13 degrees. Speedway Bomber seats are 20 degrees. Etc......
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