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Projects Studebaker Covers on your Chevy - Fix that Belly Button

Discussion in 'The Hokey Ass Message Board' started by scottybaccus, Feb 8, 2009.

  1. scottybaccus
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    So I know this guy that has a friend with a coworker that needs some cool valvecovers for his small block err.. Studebaker. Yeah his Studebaker. Problem is, I, umm, this guy hates oil leaks. So anyways, he heard somewhere about these cool valve covers on early Stude V8s. It seems that the 232 to 259 c.i. motors from 1953 to ??? used a nice, no name, center bolt valve cover. Follow along as this guy updates the sealing to keep those nasty oil spots off my, err... his driveway.

    First, you have to see how close the holes are to some other nameless covers to believe it. It seems they could go on that motor with only a set of bolts and a liberal application of silicone. The Studebaker covers use rubber grommets in large holes, the others use a close fit hole and an aluminum washer.
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    The sealing surfaces really show what 30+ years of development can do.

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    The shaded area shows how much the gaskets overlap. Not too confidence inspiring...
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    I started with removal of the unnecessary parts. I saved the tops and baffles for a PCV trick to come later.

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    Then I scribed a line down the center of the flange using a piece of 1/8" masonite as a guide. I cut the long sides with a cut off wheel and the short sides and corners with snips. This stuff is pretty light weight. Note that the corners on the stude covers have two different radius. This is consistent with the chevy.

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    About 12-14 hours in the electrolysis tank made short work of the rust inside and out....

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    No pics of the welding, but here's the drill.
    First, drill 8 3/16 fender washers to 1/4" to fit the bolts closely. Cut these down to small sqaures to tack inside the stude covers with the cylinder head or original cover used as a jig for the four stud bolts. Weld the holes closed from the top, then drill them back out from the inside using the washers as a guide. The center of the new hole will be on the inboard edge of the old hole, so this was an easy way to make that happen.
    Now use a bunch of nuts and washers to mount threaded rod in the framework of the chevy insert to help you align it inside the stude cover. Tack it in place in about 12 places, then test fit to the cylinder head. If you like it, weld it. Keep the heat to a minimum and move around after welding no more than one inch at a time. When finished, I mounted 3 cut-off wheels on my die-grinder to make a wider disk. This was the right size to grind the weld back flush with the studebaker sealing surface, being careful not to grind too much. It needs to be flat, not steve sellers pretty.
    Here's the finished product.

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    I put drain holes in each end of the chevy piece to allow any oil getting between the two a way back to the pan
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    The gaskets needed a minor trim at two corners...

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    Now a little bit of traditional hardware to finish it off...

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    The engine will be assembled soon, so I'll add that to my build thread. For the record, you can bolt centerbolt Studebaker covers on your late model belly button without all this, but now I am confident that oil leaks won't be an issue and I won't have to search out rare gaskets and grommets. Off the shelf gaskets and 5" threaded rod with brass washers and acorn nuts are easy to get.

    Ta daa!

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  2. choppintops
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    I'm not into the "fake" look, but good fabricating execution.
     
  3. Chopperman
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    more info on the "tank" please
     
  4. scottybaccus
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    Thanks. I don't think it's fake. It makes a motor with 53 years of history look the part. It will look more at home with two fours, an I-beam axle and a 70 year old body. Let's save that debate. It's been beaten to death already.
     

  5. choppintops
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    Just like finned covers over disk brakes. Call it what you want, it is a part designed to make a modern part look like it is something it isn't. No different then the disk covers or rat rodders using hemi covers on thier chevs.:rolleyes:
     
  6. scottybaccus
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  7. Nice looking pair of valve covers. Thanks for posting.

    Charlie
     
  8. TP
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    Scotty, that is a nice set of vavle covers. Neat trick. Thanks for posting. As far as being fake or not who cares. Model a's didn't come with bomber seats either and I like them also.
     
  9. Ranunculous
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    Hey scotty,
    Great tech! This is what hot rodding is all about-taking something stock and making it look and perform better.That and having what the other guy doesn't by the labors of your own hands and talent.
    Cool!
     
  10. Dirty2
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  11. rick finch
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    Put a real Studebaker mill in it!!!:D
     
  12. Von Rigg Fink
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    theres nothing wrong with this idea..call it Engine-nuity..
    atleast he isnt buying false oldsmobile sbc covers..he made these
     
  13. scottybaccus
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    Did I forget to mention that leaving the hole spacing alone and leaving out the webs in the chevy flange would make this a direct improvement to Studebaker? :)

    Thanks guys. I like it. Another benefit is massive clearance for big rockers. This was another consideration. I am searching for aftermarket breathers like the aluminum moon stuff that would be appropriate on a steel cover. I've seen a couple, but nothing that makes me want to put holes in these yet. I will have to look at my manifold when it comes in to see if there is room for a breather there. That's why I hung on to the old breather baffles.

    If anyone has cool breather ideas for steel covers, I'd love to see them.
     
  14. Danimal
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    Gives it a lot more class than the stock covers. They look great.
     
  15. Pauly da mick
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    This is cool man! Thanks for sharing!! :cool:
     
  16. stude_trucks
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    I don't like fake anything, particularly valve covers, blowers and not to even mention patina - let alone desecrating precious Studebaker parts for a Chevy.

    But, this seems cool enough for me and I don't have much problem with it. It doesn't say Studebaker or Chevy on them and I can tell you for sure, not very many people are even going to recognize the covers and think that is a Studebaker motor and be "tricked". Mostly only actual Studebaker people even care about Studebaker or know much of anything about them and those will also pretty much instantly realize that is not a Studebaker motor but will be amazed that this was even possible.

    Mixing and matching parts and getting creative is what hot rodding is all about. Sure, he could just go get some cool finned cast covers and that is probably what I would do if I had to use a Chevy. But, I can admire the work that went into these even if I wouldn't do it myself.

    Coming from a pretty hardcore Studebaker person, seems ok to me, crazy, but ok. Good to see some wacky ideas and some good craftsmanship too. Glad somebody is at least putting some old Studebaker parts to use as not enough do and too much still just wastes away and gets tossed to the scrappers.
     
  17. Rusty Junk Ranch
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    Fake is an empty blower case with a 2GC under it :D!
    I think your safe:)
     
  18. bobbytnm
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    Very cool!

    Looks like you did an excellent job. I recently made some valve covers for my 500ci Caddy engine. I cut the tops off some early Caddy valve cover and mated them to the tops of my late model covers.

    Again, nice work
    Bobby
     
  19. krooser
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    I'm waiting for the SBC to early Hemi conversion... it's for Chevy guys with low self-esteem.

    Or the '57 Chevy glue on panels for your Corrola...
     
  20. Funny how the nay-sayers always have to comment, and those of us that think this is "Hot Rodding" just admire.

    Good job, Scotty. Thanks for the Tech.
    If I had a crate engine I'd do it.
     
  21. Rudebaker
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    I'm a long time Chevy guy with a Studebaker that still has a Studebaker engine in it. I still like my Chevy's but I'm diggin' the Stude V-8 just as much and plan to keep it right where it belongs. That said I don't see what he's doing as trying to "fake" a Studebaker engine, I see it as putting unique and cool valve covers on a Chevy engine. As 'stude trucks' said only a Stude guy will probably recognize the covers and none of them are going to think it's a Stude engine for a split second. I should really stir the shit and put some "fake" Olds valve covers on my Stude.

    Great job, I like 'em! :cool: I just hope this doesn't become a trend until after I've picked up a couple spare sets of stock covers for my car.
     
  22. xderelict
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    We might have something like that running around town.It's a rear engined chevy truck disguised as a hemi . It's terrible. Rob Lee may have a picture of it.I don't know if I should ask.:confused:

     
  23. Slag Kustom
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    nice work. i hate chevy center bolt valve covers.
     
  24. plym49
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    I'd do this to a SBC in a NY minute. You accomplished changing the look of the Chevy motor in a good way. Putting 'Oldsmobile' covers on a Chevy is dumb, just like putting 'Corvette' covers on a Stude V8 would be dumb.

    An important part of hot rodding is taking something designed for over there, and using it over here.

    Again, great job.
     
  25. LIL.TIMMYUser Name
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    They look cool!!! Isn't that what we're all after? I've done tons of weird shit just to do it, hasn't everyone? Turned a 4d 71 maverick into a 2d with longer door, sills and some minor window frame reshaping. I had people come up wondering what exactly i was driving all the time!! Mind you this had some serious mods done, nose on the deck,shaved bumper, found a junkyard "super comp" header, installed it, f-in header sat on the ground when i let it off the jack!!! What to do? Just raise the whole motor/trans 9 inches in the unibody! 2oo inch 6 with a triple offy carb log. Americans all around. Was my only car for some time. I didn't have much money, and it was a turd to be sure, but i had fun building it, had fun driving it, and wish i still had it. Being creative with what you've got is what it's all about. Rock-on! You crazy free-thinkers!
     

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  26. Hell those look very cool! Any pics of them on a motor?
     
  27. patgizz
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    awesome work, i hate chevy centerbolt valve covers and all the aftermarket offerings
     
  28. willie57
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    that is just to darn cool
     
  29. jguff
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    Anyone who knows engines will still see a small block chevy because of the exhaust manifold configuration.

    Jerome
     
  30. Good tech! I think it will be helpful to alot of us tryig to make a sbc look a little better.
     

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