is there such a thing as a stromberg 94? i thought a 94 was a holley and strombergs were 48 and 97. im confused.
Strombergs are 97's and 48's and 81's. Holley made 94's and 2100's. There's a little info here... http://www.vintagespeed.com/carbs.htm
Ha! It's funny cause it's true. There was a "stromberg 94" (in reality an 8ba) on ebay last year that looked like it was stored in a bucket of salt water. Price? Buy it now: $500
There was a HAMBER - who shall remain anonymous - who sent me two Holley 94's along with two 97 kits to build for him. When I broke the bad news to him, he said he bought them on Ebay as Strombergs. Duh.
The Holley Ford "92", cast with that number on bowl side to indicate 1939 V860 part prefix, is marked 81 on back for its bore size. Holley designation I think AA7/8...need to look at one to verify. It looks exactly like a 94...numbers on it and the obviously smaller throats are the only noticeable differences.
Bruce, you're the only person in the entire world that carries around this much information on early Ford carbs! YOU RULE! Well.... now I would ALSO like to see one!!
Onliest thing you will notice if more than 2 feet away is "92" on the side where PN prefix is cast on all the earlies...Prefix of contemporaneous 221/239 carb in '39 and '40 had 91-99 there, indicating 221 and 239 use. They can still be had cheaply from fleamarket jumbles of cores because practically no one knows about them.
Thanks, Bruce..So the only thing that is similar is the venturi size and it came on a V8 60..Looks nothing like a Stromberg..I was wondering, Stromberg 92 ???? Duane.
Ah...it is model "AA-7/8"...normal one is AA-1. Note the "H" on the accel well...that indicates made by Holley. Some were made by Ford directly.
Were the Chandler Groves carburetors designated 94? I have one but have never taken the time to study it closely.
Chandler grove was one year i think it was 1938 ford gave chandler grove the contract then after that year ford cut cost and got the blueprint rights and got holley to make the 94 there were a few changes on design from the groves. Some of the early 94 holleys had the ford script on the bowls the later ones had 94 cast into the bowl.
CG's went into experimental (beta testing on public) production 1937, rapidly took over during '38. I have 3...two are Holley built, one is Ford built! One even has the H build mark stamped instead of cast...maybe an artifact of early Holley takeover of the biggest role in production. Model 78, but prefix not on bowl. Ford built ones were done in a small plant with better tooling than Holley but low numbers...my guess is 10% of carbs. I think this was a standby operation so strike or trouble with Holley could be quickly remedied at home. Carbs have 3 kinds of designations, all wildly mixed in hotrod usage: Bowl side cast number, like "92" and "59", indicating Ford part number like 59A-9510 so parts man could ID the carb; Size designation on back of carb (.94, .81) and Holley numbers applying to numerous versions like AA-1 and AA-7/8. Many carbs are also stamped on back with standard or high altitude jet sizes. To make things even messier, most carbs have been through multiple commercial rebuilds and now have parts of several versions mixed...
I had a holley 94 with the "Lincoln Zephyr V12" emblem on the side of the bowl, got the bowl in a $5 bucket of parts at a garage sale. Only thing different was the size of the throttle openings.
How about Holley O6H? 4 bolt base, I was told they were off a '38 Lincoln... couple of years ago now, maybe it was you who told me, Bruce?
The last several Lincoln 12 carbs had different book numbers, but all used the 06H 1940 bowl casting...I think. Lincoln parts book '36-48 has a very confusing and I think incomplete carb section. I believe 4-bolt Lincoln carbs are '46-48. Not enough data... Earliest Holley Lincolns had the LZ logo mentioned above. I think maybe 1939 only?? "Zephyr" name was dropped somewhere around 1940 when big series Lincolns were discontinued and the little H series V-12 became the whole line...not sure of exact year. Anyhow, the "0" in 06H means 1940 intro for that part.
Here's my favorite Strombergs and Holleys... Stromberg Aerojet, Holley 885, and Holley 1904 Glass Bowl I've got 4 of the Aerojets going on a 500 cad, 4 885s going on a 303 Olds, and then 6 1904s going on 223 Ford Six...
Bruce, You amaze me with the information that you have........I still have your post from HAMB in 01' when you did a tech on what Stromberg's carbs. came off of.......I still refer to it frequently, and my pops will call me on the cell and ask me to check that list from "Bruce" to see what this carb. is from a garage sale/flea market. Thanks, Chris Nelson Kansas
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