Stop the gov from restrictions on us............

Go to this website and sign up. They work with SEMA to stop us from having to raise our ride heights, put in emission equip, etc.

www.carinitiative.com

 

1984 on the left, 2010 on the right.....hmmmmm

 

there is a social group for this already..I'll see if i can find the link if im not beat to it.

here it is.. I think it covers this? if not..maybe it needs you to bring it up

http://www.jalopyjournal.com/forum/group.php?groupid=572

 

Ride heights? Anything that puts equipment below the scrub line ain't a hot rod, it's a fukkin joke.

The rest of all the hand wringing is noise. Just noise.

 

I just want to know when Hot rodding was EVER legal? All the way back to the 50's,the image of a hot rod was always a souped up old car or highly modified custom being followed by a cop with flashing lights. Isnt the allure to hot rodding the fact that we are a groups that exist just on the fringes of society.

I think a lot of this paranoia stems from the fact that more and more rodders are paying exorbitant amounts of money to have custom cars built and they crying the blues when they cant drive them on the street without being hassled. Oh well,thats what you signed up for. Thats the price you pay for being cool. If all you wanted was a street legal car to wax at the local car show then you should have bought a restored classic or muscle car.

Almost all states have collector car and street rod plates which is leaps and bounds better then what young kids of the 50's ever had to work with. The notion that you can buy a late model car and rip into it has never been socially accepted. Get over it.

 

Everything old is new again.

 

you know what happened to the boy who cried wolf? later on there really was a wolf and no one believed him

 

Yep. There is nothing that I know of that restricts me or my jalopies. Can anybody tell me one thing that has changed since 1950 as far as restricting the operation of my hot rod?

 

Just the cost.

 

Of course. Emissions laws. They may not effect you where you live yet, but they affect many people on this board.

 

I dunno. I think you "text bited" me a bit there. Were you implying that the fear should be over historic plates being revoked? In all honesty I dont think that is going to happen. Most of the guys around here are building with "real steel" so they have every right to claim that they own an old car. The shop built cars using custom frames with VIN's of old cars stamped on them but having no real old parts are no different then guys who are trying to swap a 69 Camaro VIN tag onto the new dynacorn bodies. There will always be a debate over how much metal on a car can be replaced before it is no longer the original car. In the case of those Camaros,my opinion is that if there is no law that stops a restorer from replacing every bit of metal on the car exept the firewall and VIN numbers and there is a law that allows a restorer to transfer the VIN number from a rusty cowl panel to a new repop cowl panel then what is the differance if all the panels are replaced at once or at seperate times? At one point or another you can no longer touch the car and touch a piece of real history.

A lot of big issues have coe out of the business over the decades. Repop fiberglass bodies,repop muscle car bodies.full hand built million dollar rods with nothing but the VIN of a vintage car stamped on the frame.

There will always be a disconnect between old school rodders(I kind of include myself in that category) and those who just want the status of a rod builder/owner without the burden of being either.

 

Many people on this board.......?
How about you pwschuh? What car do you have and how does the law restrict your use of it that is targeting hot rods that's different from all other cars,? Actually in most states the opposite is true, laws give hot rods and Kustoms a break, exempting them from general rules.
I'm exempt from emission test, that's a good thing because I'd have to overhaul my smoker, but after that, it would pass..

 

Believe you me there IS a wolf and his name is Uncle Sam. the ONLY reason we are still allowed to do what we do is because of groups like SEMA that inform we the voters and work to defeat negative legislation. you think they can't take away our hot rods? think again!
If you love the freedoms we enjoy with out hot rods i'd suggest joining the SEMA action network and getting involved. if not then when they do take away our rights to modify our cars the way we want to then you'll have no one to blame but yourselves.

 

Big government and some states have been sniffing around the classic area for many years and as I read in California they came down on a few rod builders for registering new as old. Then there is the emission there fooling with the current laws to somehow make it mandatory for the emission's to follow the year make of motor in the rods. Currently we are OK in Texas but I think as a precaution we should keep our eyes open to any suggested laws that would govern our classic car and hot rod groups.

 

Apparently no one watches what ca has been trying to pull the last few years, how do you think your hot rod would stand up to a smog check? remember most rules start here and spread like cancer.

 

Yep. Taxes are up, cost of everything except wages is up.
I don't think I can blame the gvt for a slow or upside down economy though. Anybody that thinks that don't know economics 101.
Labor on my jalopy don't count, just hope they don't figure out a way to tax that. Ha

 

Old title indicates ownership of an old car, laundering that to a new build is fraud. It's better to modify the old car, which is legal in most cases.

 

I thought about it. Then I thought about it, again.
I'm an optomist. I don't whine about things I have no control over.
'They' might take your hot rod, but they won't take mine. There's simply no evidence that 'they' even want to.

 

that was my point , i believe there is a wolf this time