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Folks Of Interest Stolen from Friday Art Show and on Sale at Essen Motor Show

Discussion in 'The Hokey Ass Message Board' started by BOMONSTER, Dec 2, 2011.

    Joined: Jul 14, 2008
    Posts: 516


    I hate thieves. Car thieves, tool thieves, Idea thieves. Pure scum of our sport and they deserve to be ratted out. While at the Essen Motor Show in Germany this week, a friend found my low-res art stolen off the HAMB Friday Art Show and my website and turned into badly printed stickers for sale.


    There are few things worse than some lowlife scumbag opening a website or pop-up store calling himself a hot rod shop and filling it with counterfeit ripoffs and selling to an unsuspecting public.


    Germany's Johan Werner - also known as Joe Werner - runs and is out looking for art, logos, etc to steal and make a quick Euro on.

    If you're a contributing HAMB artist you might to check out his site and make sure you're not on it.

    Yes he's going to get a cease and desist. But creeps like this deserve a lot more.
  2. n.z.rodder
    Joined: Nov 18, 2008
    Posts: 1,016


    He prints them himself? I guess the big name race decals would be an easy target, but one off "art" pieces?? I bet he don't hold a licence to print/reproduce anything. Go get him!

  3. Rikster
    Joined: Dec 10, 2004
    Posts: 5,781


    Bad guy!!! I hate it!
  4. farmer12
    Joined: Aug 28, 2006
    Posts: 7,717


    Go get him tiger!

  5. dw123
    Joined: Nov 23, 2005
    Posts: 194


    Sadly, this happens in Europe quite a bit, you see T Shirts all the time that you think are the real thing, but then find out that they are ripoffs...
  6. bonez
    Joined: Jul 16, 2007
    Posts: 3,492

    from Slow lane

    i feel your pain.....but what can you expect from someone sellin Sons of anarchy merch.
  7. xsquiden
    Joined: Jul 20, 2009
    Posts: 111


    To bad it has to happen if he was around here i have a shovel and open ground but i guess it is just a part of our lives now people are raised different i just had stuff stolen from my place lately cant prove it even if i could nothin will happen to the theives sorry to say the guilty have more rights. The honest hard working people get screwed but please sir dont quit showing your art work it is honestly awe inspiring just as much as some peoples builds around here are. Like i said you do awesome work please dont deprive us of your work just because of some a##hole thieves.
    later sir
  8. nefareous
    Joined: Nov 21, 2008
    Posts: 360

    from maryland

    "imitation is the highest form of flattery".......?
  9. SlmLrd
    Joined: Oct 27, 2007
    Posts: 988

    from DAGO

    Boy oh boy Bomonster, everyone's stealing your shit. Must be nice to be so in demand!
  10. Finnrodder
    Joined: Oct 18, 2009
    Posts: 2,965

    from Finland

    What a douchebag!
  11. Larjk9
    Joined: Dec 12, 2008
    Posts: 187


    No expert on computers, but I've seen sites that prevent copying of pics. Don't know how it's done, but it may be something worth looking into. Is there anything legal to do being foreign country?
  12. Slim Pickens
    Joined: Dec 15, 2008
    Posts: 3,342

    Slim Pickens

    Here is his contact info. What an ass.
    Johann Werner
    Sterngasse 5
    74535 Mainhardt
    Telefon: 0049-157-745 905 88
  13. joeyesmen
    Joined: Dec 24, 2010
    Posts: 483


    This sucks, but it's tough to enforce U.S. copyright laws in Europe. The rest of the world does not treat intellectual property the same way we do here. Might be more expensive than you bargained for if you have to fight this in Euro courts.
  14. Lucky3
    Joined: Dec 9, 2009
    Posts: 652


  15. is it not possible that he bought that stickers somewhere in the usa and just resell them in essen? That is what a lot of peoples do here . A friend of mine for example does exactly this at the essen show. Its not this wolfgang by the way.
  16. sololobo
    Joined: Aug 23, 2006
    Posts: 8,179


    F'n losers, they must think that being so far away they are beyond legal matters. About as low as it gets, yes, a compliment to your talent when properly licensed. Really b.s. pal. Get em. ~sololobo~
  17. dw123
    Joined: Nov 23, 2005
    Posts: 194


    Didn't SoCal sue someone for coypright infringement....?
  18. eaglebeak
    Joined: Sep 17, 2007
    Posts: 1,180


    Are they copyright?
    If not..............................
  19. Ranunculous
    Joined: Nov 30, 2007
    Posts: 2,466


    Makes you want to think twice about watermarking or serrating any art shown on the web?
  20. Saxon
    Joined: Aug 9, 2008
    Posts: 2,157

    from MN

    It's called Intellectual Copyright. Original pieces of art are automatically covered. There is no copyright symbol on the Mona Lisa :p.
  21. 64Cyclone
    Joined: Aug 30, 2009
    Posts: 1,496


    Seems to me there are alot of people out there printing junk stickers how ever they can. I've purchased several off of eBay that are horrible pixelated junk that are printed off of a computer. I guess the old ones were screened??? But there is an obvious difference in quality between this junk and original old stickers. Glad I was getting them for a tool box and not a vintage race car.

  22. Fenders
    Joined: Sep 8, 2007
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  23. farmergal
    Joined: Nov 28, 2010
    Posts: 2,074

    from somewhere

    thats why, from a photographer's standpoint, that you MUST remember to put watermarks on your photos/artwork when uploaded online. The more you copyright them before you upload them ANYWHERE on the internet; the better. I understand people can photoshop that out but if you take the time to do some really good watermarks; it becomes increasingly difficult to photoshop them out. Sad to see this happen; but its occuring everywhere...not just in the "art" world.
  24. That's a damn shame Bo. How can these dolts not figure out to go through the right channels to get their merch? They'll still make their $ selling while the artist gets their piece of the pie too. Hope you can resolve this will quickly.
  25. Gambino_Kustoms
    Joined: Oct 14, 2005
    Posts: 6,561

    Alliance Vendor

    this sucks
    did you have a few words for the guys
    for the in fo
  26. COOP666
    Joined: May 8, 2007
    Posts: 707

    from Austin TX

    Ugh, I have been dealing with this shit for so long, but it still depresses me to see it happen to other artists.

    I've seen everything that can be printed or manufactured with a bootleg smoking Devil printed on 'em. There's even a guy in Europe who was doing a whole clothing line with my art - he approached me for a license, then did it as bootlegs when I said no. There's another turd who was working as an "artist", showing clients my work in his portfolio, then photoshopping together art from bits and pieces of my stuff. The list goes on and on and on...

    Ebay will take down auctions if you show that you are the creator/copyright owner, but in a case like this, there's not much to do but show up at his booth and deliver a cock punch (not that I am suggesting you do that, wink,wink)

    The bigger problem is that most people who don't make their living as an artist simply don't understand that this is stealing, same as prying open my garage door and hotwiring my car.
  27. COOP666
    Joined: May 8, 2007
    Posts: 707

    from Austin TX

    "If it's on the internet, it must be free" that's the excuse I have heard several times from ignorant designers and art directors - do they not teach copyright law in art school?

    At a certain point, I think it becomes like shoplifting in chain stores - a certain amount is always gonna happen, and it is built into the accounting. Make your own stuff, and make it of a higher quality than the bootlegs, and hope that people have the sense to want the real thing - ultimately that's the only way to beat them.
  28. COOP666
    Joined: May 8, 2007
    Posts: 707

    from Austin TX

    Oh, and watermarks don't stop anybody, unless it is completely covers the artwork and makes it so illegible that you might as well not post it anyway. Anything else is easy to remove/cover up in photoshop.
  29. dustdevil
    Joined: Mar 2, 2009
    Posts: 814

    from illinois

    Damn, sorry to hear Bo. I have seen this done many times over with Weesner's art at big shows. You can say something to him but good luck in him stopping since he's not close to you. Some people are just asses! If it's not him, it will be someone else. I too have had some of my art stolen and reproduced as someone elses. Best of luck in what you do!

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