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Technical Stamped steel 8 ba bell housings

Discussion in 'The Hokey Ass Message Board' started by nobby, Dec 17, 2019.

  1. nobby
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    I take it they are not supposed to sit flat 15765803404611544311489593867650.jpg
     
  2. Mac VP
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    That is correct.....the starter plate made to fit against this particular bell housing has a slanted section, where the starter bolts, to compensate for the angle. Each of the various Ford & Mercury bell housings has its own matching starter plate.
     
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  3. nobby
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    Mac you are a star sir... I was scratching my head as the complete engine was I think picked up by the bell. So it's definitely a ford bell. So I need a ford starter plate. I have made up my mind. I will cut down my t5's input shaft machine the tip so it'd stock flathead. Use a Chevy fork with s threaded ball. Nut welded to steel bell. The spigot is Chevy t5
     
  4. jailbar joe
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    instead of going to the trouble of modifying the input shaft,why not a spacer between box and housing.sounds a lot easier to me
     
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  5. V8 Bob
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    You need the '49-'51 Ford car V8 starter plate, the only one that angles the starter for the full stamped steel V8 bell.

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  6. The one for my Merc is made just like that as well.
    Really good piece considering it is 70 years old.
    The more I see of these old parts,,,,the more it reinforces my opinion that they really knew their stuff back then.

    Tommy
     
  7. nobby
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    Why mod the shaft
    I plan on fitting a 070 V8 Camaro input and 070 cluster and 123 heard into the V6 case.
     
  8. nobby
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    I can cut the input shaft tip to fit a roller bearing. Will shorten the total length by 32 osh mm
     
  9. Flathead Dave
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    No. They do not sit flat.
     
  10. V8 Bob
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    JFYI, the '49-'51 Ford 6 cyl. stamped bell is flat, looks very similar to the V8 bell, but will not interchange, and uses an entirely different and massive starter plate.
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  11. Good info.....just a word.....tread lightly if your buying a bell hosing - without that starter plate !
     
  12. Mr48chev
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    I've got one of those hanging on the side of the shed that I picked up somewhere for the price of a can of good beer. It will probably be on the side of that shed for another ten years.
    For Chevy applications we can use the Jeep 10 spline T 5 input shaft and end up with the correct length and an easy to get clutch disk. I haven't seen anything I remember comparing a Ford input shaft length to the Jeep T 5 though.
     

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