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Hot Rods Spending the money building vintage engines

Discussion in 'The Hokey Ass Message Board' started by Roothawg, Jun 18, 2020.

  1. mohr hp
    Joined: Nov 18, 2009
    Posts: 241

    mohr hp
    from Georgia

    On the FE Ford stuff; what's the best way to get into an overdrive automatic that will work with a 400 horse or so FE? Beefed 2004r with adapter? I have had no good experience with 700r4's and the AOD seems weak.
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  2. pkhammer
    Joined: Jan 28, 2012
    Posts: 544


    I really dig a vintage Caddy, Nailhead, Rocket, or Hemi engine in a hot rod and that's why I'm building a 331 Cad for my '32 pickup. Ever notice the crowds around these mills at the rod runs? Is there anything that sounds better or draws more attention than a flathead? Yeah, it's worth the extra bucks to build a vintage mill in my opinion if you like being different. The cool factor is off the charts. I also get it why 95% of rodders go with a sbc. Cheap, plentiful, powerful, fits well, and that's fine if you don't mind being-like-everybody-else..................
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  3. As Ford never offered any auto overdrive with the FE, whatever you use will need an adaptor. A beefed AOD would be my choice, they're basically a reworked FMX and Ford installed lots of those behind the FE. The aftermarket has addressed the weak points, basically a couple of internal shafts.
  4. Quain Stott
    Joined: Nov 21, 2006
    Posts: 1,988

    Quain Stott

    The Southeast Gasser Association give a big weight break to Caddys, Olds, FE engines, Y engines, W engines, Nailheads, etc because we know they are down on power against a Small Block or Big block Chevy. In order to keep from having an all Chevy race we give the breaks to keep the old iron racing so the fans can pull for their favorite old school engine. I personally think the odd engines styles are worth spending the money for the cool factor.
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  5. Roothawg
    Joined: Mar 14, 2001
    Posts: 19,898


    Very cool Quain. I love to see that.
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  6. Rickybop
    Joined: May 23, 2008
    Posts: 6,512

    from Michigan

    Something about the few old V8s that have only three exhaust ports. Or at least the center two are so close that it looks like only three. The flathead V8, the early Oldsmobile and Cadillac... maybe others?
    I remember when I was just a little kid, ogling one of the first flathead powered hot rods I ever saw in person. I noticed that I was seeing a lot of the red painted engine block. Sometime later... maybe years... I realized why. Fewer primary exhaust pipes and more space between 'em.

    It's definitely a vintage look.

    That, along with maybe three or six carburetors... a nice old generator...
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  7. lumpy 63
    Joined: Aug 2, 2010
    Posts: 1,219

    lumpy 63

    I have purposely not added up the receipts for my Cad 390 ....But it sure makes me smile when I see it on the stand in the garage:D Root finish up polishing the block and send it off to the machine shop already:)
  8. anthony myrick
    Joined: Sep 4, 2009
    Posts: 5,930

    anthony myrick

    when the major solar flare or EMP hits, we can still cruise our old engines
  9. F29B043D-EF8E-4308-9764-1324CBF1846E.jpeg F29B043D-EF8E-4308-9764-1324CBF1846E.jpeg I hear you
    Joined: Jul 26, 2008
    Posts: 54
    from 14883

    For me it's all about early engines, olds, caddy, studie, even some of the 4 or sixes. So we don't worry about the horsepower, or the money too much....I'm stuck in flathead land, no chevy sounds as cool as a flattie craking early in the day. Motors look great.
  11. y'sguy
    Joined: Feb 25, 2008
    Posts: 375

    from Tulsa, OK

    I rebuilt my yblock years ago and spent plenty AND even made enough mistakes along the way to add additionally to the cost. Now that several years have passed, the money I spent is now forgotten. I have an engine I'm proud of, looks cool, makes 300+ horses and wonderful torque to match. Built an AOD to match the workload and it's awesome. I would to it again without hesitation.[​IMG]

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  12. 03GMCSonoma
    Joined: Jan 15, 2011
    Posts: 225


    But if you are ugly you better be damned fast.
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  13. Roothawg
    Joined: Mar 14, 2001
    Posts: 19,898


    The 2x4 is dropped off at the polisher. Even though, I am not sure I will use it. Still on the fence about the 3x2.
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  14. OK asshole, I am now building an OT vintage inline for our Bonneville car. Think Paul Newman. I am a sick person but 700 to 1400 HP got my attention
  15. Roothawg
    Joined: Mar 14, 2001
    Posts: 19,898


    Good man.
  16. Dreddybear
    Joined: Mar 31, 2007
    Posts: 5,948


    You’re not crazy homie.
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  18. Root, I'm with you... My favorite engine has always been the Small Journals (prior to '67)... a '65 327 Small Journal is what I have now in my '64 C-10 truck... and I always seem to spend more $ to put in SS valves and port work on the old Iron-Heads (#462 camel humps I have now) instead of the easy Edelbrock alum. off the shelf heads... Just my preference... I know all the kids go for the LS-3 w/ 22" wheels, and in my opinion, it ruins it...
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  19. camcrusher
    Joined: Aug 11, 2013
    Posts: 161

    from Candor, NY

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  20. Just follow the "ABC's"...
  21. I do my own porting , polishing , bigger valves, bought the port grinders ,seat enlargement tooling and valve refacer machine . Taught myself by learning from my mistakes . This is how I could afford to modify my 331 Caddy to a 400 incher . Learn how to set up a Hilborn injection and rework carbs. for alky , recurve distributors on my dist. machine . Now nearing 80 and slowing down , it's been a good life !
  22. Garpo
    Joined: Jul 16, 2016
    Posts: 190


    I guess it is all about what puts a big smile on the face. Nothin like it when a plan comes together.
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  23. Brand Apart
    Joined: Jan 22, 2011
    Posts: 643

    Brand Apart
    from Roswell GA

    Hank37 I hope you pass on those skills and the equipment to someone who will utilize it it, someday in the future. Few people can make a statement like yours. Being a life long Hot Rodder sounds like a great way to enjoy ourselves I've only been at it 20 years or so I can only hope to achieve your level of experience someday as well as hope to still be at it at almost 80. Bravo my man.
  24. LAROKE
    Joined: Sep 5, 2007
    Posts: 1,703


    Thanks for the inspiration, Hank. I'm seventy and slogging my way thru three projects and I hope I have the time - 37' Chevy pickup with Jimmy 302 engine. Then slapping a 471 blower on the side of the 235 stovebolt in my '55 Chevy pickup. Finally, rebuilding a '54 Buick 322 nailhead and topping it off with a Latham axial flow supercharger. One day at a time.
    Last edited: Aug 19, 2020
  25. Rickybop
    Joined: May 23, 2008
    Posts: 6,512

    from Michigan

    Really enjoying this thread.
    All you guys are awesome.
    Having such a love for this stuff and making the effort to acquire and invest the knowledge and skills and everything it takes to build cool old engines with soul. And then stick 'em in cool old cars... with soul.
    In fact, sometimes I think that you guys don't give yourselves enough credit. Cuz there's no doubt... it's the rare person who can do it.
    And it's the coooooolest!
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  26. railcarmover
    Joined: Apr 30, 2017
    Posts: 434


    Bump up what she come a Kia Rio..
  27. TheSteamDoc
    Joined: Jul 14, 2018
    Posts: 111


    I decided to run a Cadillac 390 in my A because I wanna be different and stand out at the car shows. Plus I'm building the car as a 50's traditional and they were around. Sorta, I'll tell people it's a "331". I decided on it after thinking about how much money I'd pour into a flat head for 200 HP. I'm planning a trip power, port and polish plus gasket matching with a nice healthy Isky cam. It'll be a cruiser but I wanna roast the tires! Only drawback is the expense of these unique engines! Ask me how I know.
  28. swifty
    Joined: Dec 25, 2005
    Posts: 1,673


    OK @Tman. I'll bite. What is that?
  29. RB Nissan built by Peter Donnelly in Australia, 1400HP
  30. swifty
    Joined: Dec 25, 2005
    Posts: 1,673


    Wow. Thanks for that but we've got the moderators onto us now.
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