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Hot Rods Spalding Bros Repro, for "Too Tall" Ganahl.

Discussion in 'The Hokey Ass Message Board' started by Marty Strode, Jul 13, 2015.

  1. Stovebolt
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    "Best day at work .... ever"

    Where have you heard that before ??? ;-)

    These pictures brings a glimmer of a tear to the eye.
    Makes one want to go out and build some sort of a tribute to some famous hot rod..... Oh I know - Gene Hewitt's 32 roadster. see .... <-----
     
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  2. volvobrynk
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    from Denmark

    Start over and get a Chevy, since it's what the cool kids had! ;)

    Are you running a Wayne motor in that, @Stovebolt
    ?

    I can't see your avatar since I'm on the app.

    Got a picture to spare?

    And Marty, I loved the wood chopper video!
     
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  3. Stovebolt
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    I am a long way off woth my head.

    Its a raw casting, although I have original accessories (Valve cover and side plate) to go with it. Got N.O.S. rockers, but need a bunch of other parts and even worse, a bunch of funds to get it done.

    Here's a picture of my avatar. Gene ran Bonneville in 1949 ( A rpu with a 12 port) 1950 ( 32 roadster with the 12 port) and 1951 ( track nosed 27 T roadster with the 12 port)
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  4. Marty Strode
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    Saturday was such a nice day, I rolled it outside for some pics. IMG_0708.JPG IMG_0712.JPG IMG_0718.JPG
     
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  6. Marty Strode
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    Today, I opened the radiator box that Pat brought up, what a great piece of workmanship. I am not going to mount it until I have the track nose in place. Meanwhile I ordered some 2-1/4" J-Bends for the exhaust, and am currently searching for a tapered cone with the correct dimensions. The diameter of the side pipe will be 3-1/2" and will need some shaping to match the side of the body. IMG_0719.JPG IMG_0720.JPG IMG_0721.JPG IMG_0723.JPG IMG_0722.JPG
     
  7. Speedwrench
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    Do you know who made the radiator?

    A friend is building a repop Edmunds sprinter and is having difficulty finding a brass radiator for it and doesn't want to go with aluminum.

    Thanks.
     
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  8. Marty Strode
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    Pat had a shop in LA build it. I am sure he will fill in the details.
     
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  9. pgan
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    OK, as I showed on pg. 32 of this thread, I got the radiator from Rick's Radiator in Azusa, CA. Radiator shops are scarce today, and good ones that will do custom work are really rare. Lowrider bomb-building wizard Joe Espstein told me about Rick's. When I showed Rick photos of the Spalding car, he immediately I.D.ed the radiator as a '40 Chevy, cut down (shortened) somewhat. He also said he worked for U.S. Radiator for several years, and could get them to make me a '40 Chev radiator with a core of the dimensions we needed. I also ordered it with no side braces/mounts so Marty can make those to fit our frame at the right height. Yes, it's a nice piece. I'm pretty sure Rick said he could ship radiators. Call and see.
    Pat
     
  10. Car looks spectacular!
     
  11. jimmy six
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    Tank and the upper and lower hose fittings sure look like the one in my 40 Chev. JD
     
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  12. Cyclone Kevin
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    Don from U.S. Rad turned me onto Rick a few years back, he redid the Radiator in the 34 Roadster, the guys a genius when it comes to heat dissipation. His worker even spent years with Tom Phipps-Gennie Shifter building all of the West Covina versions.
    Glad that “Montebello Joe” turned ya on to those Katz.
     
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  13. You mean Earl that worked for Tom?
     
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  14. DRD57
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    Rick does ship radiators. I get all my radiators from him & I'm 200 miles from Azusa.
     
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  15. Speedwrench
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    Thank you for the information about the radiator. I missed the mention a few pages back.

    I'll mention this to my friend.
     
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  16. Marty Strode
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    How about some pics of Pat's visit, the smile says it all ! DSC01090.JPG DSC01096.JPG DSC01101.JPG DSC01119.JPG DSC01121.JPG DSC01126.JPG DSC01128.JPG DSC01138.JPG
     
  17. Weedburner 40
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  18. Marty Strode
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    I ordered and received two 2-1/4" J-bends for the exhaust system, and was having a problem coming up with a tapered cone with the correct dimensions, 2-1/4" on one end and 3-1/2" on the other end, around 20" long, so, I decided to make one. Starting with some 18 ga CR steel, and using PI times diameter, I sheared the material to a taper, then curled both edges in the brake. Next , using a slip roll, I formed the cone as close as I could, giving the fact my rolls are 2" in diameter. I was unable to get the small end formed tight, so I used some hose clamps to close the gap, so I could tack weld the seam. Using a round bar on the inside, I hammered the seam into shape. It took a little squeezing and hammering with a plastic hammer to finalize the shape, but it will work out fine. IMG_0724.JPG IMG_0725.JPG IMG_0726.JPG IMG_0727.JPG IMG_0728.JPG IMG_0730.JPG IMG_0732.JPG IMG_0734.JPG IMG_0736.JPG
     
  19. Marty Strode
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    I started the mock up for the pipe, deciding where to trim the bend for the correct angle down the side of the car. The pipe on the original, was only about 3/4" off the side of the body, and flat with the frame rail. IMG_0737.JPG IMG_0739.JPG IMG_0742.JPG IMG_0743.JPG IMG_0745.JPG
     
  20. THE FRENCHTOWN FLYER
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    That's about how I did mine on my champ car, using everything I could find that would squeeze the final cone progressively down to its desired dimensions - chain vice grips, header flange, pipe flange, rod end, chain vice. sr021.jpg
     
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  21. pgan
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    Yep, that's what we call hot rodding. We don't buy off the shelf. We make our own.
    Beatiful work, as usual.
    P.G.
     
  22. Marty Strode
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    I was unhappy with the thickness of the flanges I made, so I had a pair laser cut out of 3/8" material. Also my math when making the tapered cone was correct, I failed to remember that u-bends always seem to measure smaller in the bend area, like .025 smaller. The connection at the cone was not optimal, but I am lucky to have friends. An old friend, Dennis Murray, builds superbike exhaust systems and had a cone that necked down to 2", and I was able to trim it to the right diameter. When making the "shoe" connection on the rear pipe, I use a combination of band saw, tin snips, and belt sander. Then, with a little shaping on the horn of the anvil, the fit is pretty close. Notice the gap at between the 3/4" spacer and the cone, on the final fit the space between the body and pipe will be 3/4". IMG_0756.JPG IMG_0757.JPG IMG_0758.JPG IMG_0762.JPG IMG_0764.JPG IMG_0766.JPG IMG_0768.JPG IMG_0769.JPG IMG_0770.JPG IMG_0754.JPG
     
  23. Koz
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    This has got to be the best build for my taste on this site! Great workmanship an just enough respect for the past. Only thing is, that dash.... Now I have to tear mine apart to steal your idea. Oh well, the price of this addiction we share.

    Great build. can't wait to see it painted!
     
  24. Atomic Kustom
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    O man I can almost hear it now!
     
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  25. Marty Strode
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    Koz, I can't take credit for that dash, just trying my best to duplicate the original. Thanks for your interest, good luck with your project.
     
  26. Weedburner 40
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    Marty, great eye. That is a very visually attractive exhaust system. It takes patience to make things look right. Well done!
     
  27. Marty Strode
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    Making a template for the shape of the tailpipe, I started with some round aluminum tig welding rod, but decided to form an aluminum angle. It will hold it's shape better, and more consistent for the company that is going to roll the 3-1/2" pipe. The vertical flange will serve as the center line of the pipe. IMG_0794.JPG IMG_0797.JPG IMG_0798.JPG IMG_0799.JPG IMG_0800.JPG IMG_0802.JPG
     
  28. tfeverfred
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    Very well done!
     
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  29. Marty Strode
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    Well, I went to two places today, thinking they could roll form the tailpipe. One couldn't do it, and the other was 8 weeks out ! I have one more to investigate tomorrow, let's see how it goes. The pipe is such a distinctive feature on this car, I don't want to screw it up. Also, I love the head on shot, showing how the side nerf bar runs parallel to the pipe. Spalding Tom & Bill (under construction).jpg img20170124_17142996.jpg img20170124_17175886.jpg Spalding head-on( best).jpg
     
  30. Weedburner 40
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    What Marty! You don't have a tube roller for 3 1/2" tubing? How do you manage?

    Sent from my QTAQZ3 using The H.A.M.B. mobile app
     
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