Best of all would be the red one after forty years' proper maintenance, no? That would be patina. Like this is patina: <iframe width="640" height="360" src="http://www.youtube.com/embed/C5yu-3pjhCA?feature=player_embedded" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe> From the Cyclecars thread, where I also said, "The appearance that the remaining half of something has just been dug out of a swamp is not patina." The only thing non-traditional about this is the 17" rear wheels. On 15" wheels all round it would be early-mid '60s definitive.