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  1. ramblin dan
    Joined: Apr 16, 2018
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    ramblin dan

    Years ago at a swap meet I took in this axle on a trade for an F-1 gas tank. It was wrapped in plastic and in a box so I didn't bother to look much at it and took it home and tossed it on a shelf in the shed thinking I'd flip it or use it on a project. Fast forward to last week and not being able to go to swap meets I decided to start listing some parts on line and pulled the axle out to take pictures. that Only to find axle has 1/4 notch in the casting. I know it's an off shore knock off but was wondering what you fellows think of this. Should I run it as is? Can it be welded? Should I sell it with a warning? Or should flip it around to the good side and hang it on the wall with my other treasures? DSC00819.JPG DSC00817.JPG
     
  2. squirrel
    Joined: Sep 23, 2004
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    Cast?

    scrap iron pile, perhaps?
     
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  3. saltracer219
    Joined: Sep 23, 2006
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    That is pretty edgy, it would make a decent mail box post.
     
  4. dana barlow
    Joined: May 30, 2006
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    from Miami Fla.
    1. Y-blocks

    Can't say for any others,but, If I needed that ,an cost was fairly low,I'd get it !, I'd ark weld it with high nickel rod an smooth out nice. Used on a under 2000lb rod,I'd feel OK with that. But I don't need it,already have a axle for my only left over project I've not finished an maybe will not get around to..
     

  5. Fordors
    Joined: Sep 22, 2016
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    Wall hanger. Poor casting, and if they didn’t think enough about that to hold it back from being shipped I’d wonder about their metallurgy standards too.
     
  6. Primered Forever
    Joined: Jul 7, 2008
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    from Joplin,MO

    Looks like cast. I wouldn’t use it.
     
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  7. Rand Man
    Joined: Aug 23, 2004
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    I think that is a casting flaw. There may be some chance somebody could use it, probably best to use for an art project.
     
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  8. Flathead Dave
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    from So. Cal.

    Sorry you got the shaft.
     
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  9. Scrap it! If you do use it as a wall hanging, screw it up more (on the side against the wall) so it will definitely NOT be useable. Even with a warning to a buyer, some yahoo may use it..."The life you save may be your own"! (picture Brodrick Crawford here)
     
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  10. rusty valley
    Joined: Oct 25, 2014
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    I like the mail box post idea
     
  11. Beanscoot
    Joined: May 14, 2008
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    Unfortunate that the swap meet seller forgot to tell you about that flaw.
     
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  12. You , or someone who can weld cast can fill that defect. Really won’t do squat to strengthen the axle , the casting looks grainy.

    I wouldn’t run it.

    what do you think you could get for a cast off shore axle ??

    bet you could get more for it welded to a big old rotor or brake drum, then stick a mail box on it or get a piston out of a big diesel and market it as an ash tray.

    yuppies and millennials love this repurposed stuff.

    Years ago I had a v12 crank welded to a big brembo rotor and a big diesel piston on top as an ash tray
    Sold it for $300 bucks !!!!
    It was all scrap I picked out of the bin at work ! Lol.

    in this day and age of sue everyone cause it’s not my fault . I’d be weary of selling it as a useable axle.
     
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  13. treb11
    Joined: Jan 21, 2006
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    That's just the flaw you can see. I bet an x-ray would show lots of internal defects. Even if you very carefully preheat, weld nd post stress relieve, it will always be a stress concentration
     
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  14. Los_Control
    Joined: Oct 7, 2016
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    from TX

    Here in a small town we have several "unique" mail box post.
    One is a old 20's-40's bicycle ... another is a old sporster chopper hard tail .... just yard art but not really my style ....
    So when @saltracer219 mentioned a mailbox post ... Now am on the look out for a old straight axle to use myself.
    Yeah that be my style, old 40's Dodge straight axle.
     
  15. 19Fordy
    Joined: May 17, 2003
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    Just curious. Do you know what company manufactured that axle?
    Many folks say to avoid cast axles no matter what the price but,
    I know Magnum makes good quality cast axles.
    I personally would not use that axle and would not try to sell it.
    Use it as a wall hangar to keep your conscience clear.
     
  16. The37Kid
    Joined: Apr 30, 2004
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    Do you have a metal chop saw? If so, I see book ends and paper weights, with angle cuts you have door stops.

    Bob
     
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  17. SEAAIRE354
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    I think I would try to sell it with the understanding that it’s decoration or mock up only. But the mail box idea is great also.
     
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  18. IMO don't sell it, as you don't know if the buyer will use it on a car, and then have an accident. Then come after you for damages, real and imagined.
     
  19. krylon32
    Joined: Jan 29, 2006
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    from Nebraska

    Toss it and spend your money on a forged axle. Not worth the risk.
     
  20. It's a Nader.
     
  21. Hollywood-East
    Joined: Mar 13, 2008
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    No Bueno..
     
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  22. Like the man said,,,,,the cast metal looks like a low quality iron .
    Nothing can beat a forged one for safety !
    And besides,,,,I wouldn’t want something like that on my conscience .
    Looks dangerous !

    Tommy
     
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  23. redo32
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    When I blow up the picture on my phone & squint thru the plastic it looks like it has the barrel shape at the spring perch that denotes Hoffman Group. Read up on them and run.
     
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  24. Could have been like @ramblin dan and bought it, never took it out of the box and didn't know then sold it. I have a 4 speed shifter that I have never opened. Is it missing parts or damaged? I don't know as the box is still factory sealed from Hurst from who knows how many years ago. I got it with the purchase of a now long gone car and he never saw the need to open it. Besides the point. The close up of the holes also reveals a very porous casting that would minimal at best. Yea a wall hanger after completely disabling it for any future use after your demise. Or a mail box post.
     
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  25. DDDenny
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    from oregon

    Go ahead and use it.........we'll be waiting here to hear your sad tale, hopefully nobody gets seriously hurt.
     
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  26. Squablow
    Joined: Apr 26, 2005
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    Right next to a drilled hole, too. I don't think I'd use it, I think it'd be a wall hanger for me, or at very best, a mock up roller part.
     
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  27. Marty Strode
    Joined: Apr 28, 2011
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    I would probably split the king pin boss on one side, with a chop saw, so it could only be used for art. Far too many horror stories about shattered axles, and injuries.
     
  28. mickeyc
    Joined: Jul 8, 2008
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    That casting looks very grainy and porous I would not use it on a vehicle.
    I am no metal expert, however from past observations it looks poorly
    constructed. It reminds me of Harbor Freight castings, of which I have seen several brake when placed under stress.
     
  29. TCTND
    Joined: Dec 27, 2019
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    Not to beat a dead horse, but I'd cut it in half just to know I wouldn't be responsible for someone's death.
     
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  30. Wonder if anyone is actually driving around on one of those Hoffman axles; just the thought makes me cringe.
     
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