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Small block Chevy guys...what do I have?

Discussion in 'The Hokey Ass Message Board' started by MrModelT, Oct 15, 2012.

  1. barrnone50
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    Hold on Hot Rod!! I don't care if it has .02 heads we need to get to place where we can grab a few gears and see what happens. Maybe the small block 302 might spank that 327. All in good fun you in NW Floridia maybe milton?? I just could not pass on this:D.LOL
     
  2. 53mercury
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    Ah yes, Special Ford engine. Obviously the worst one they ever built. Mike
     
  3. MrModelT
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    Great info TR! I think this is a valuable piece of info that I may just end up doing before I decide to fire it. What is the best way to do this with out pulling the shavings in the engine WITHOUT pulling the bottom end out?

    Agreed. If I do decide to send it off down the road, I would prefer a H.A.M.B.er to have it and treat it as my Grandpa did.

    Thank you kindly for the very thorough FG. I believe the manifold is a Tarantula, but I would have to confirm.
     
  4. henryj1951
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    MrModelT when can we get the extra pictures..
    as were still here trying to help you find out things.
    well as least some of us are.
    I <heavy on the I --- I am so good at what i do i feel the need to pat myself on the back all day... <--- see the sarcasm there ?
    oh ya and about those threads, When you can, put the engine is on an engine stand, then you can turn it to the down side
    for countersinking holes. The chips will fall down, use a vacuum cleaner for clean up.
    Or use bearing grease on the countersink, the grease will grab the chips you've cut.
    there are 17 bolts to a head. A slow revving drill will countersink nicely.
    Cast iron is soft. so afterwords chase the threads, using the shop vacuum best you can and
    to remove any remaining metal. The intake looks to be clean can you see if it says anything?

    :cool:
     
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  5. MrModelT, if the engine is on a engine stand you can simply rotate the cylinder bank that you are countersinking the holes to be upside down. The small chips will just fall to the ground. A shop vac over each hols when you are done will do the trick.

    Now if the engine is not on a rotating engine stand, put wheel bearing grease in the " flutes " of the countersink, this will trap the shavings or chips in the grease. Yes time consuming, cleaning and replacing the grease 34 times, but it gets the job done. It only takes a couple of quick and slow revs to get a nice countersink in the hole so go slow. Cast iron is very soft. Also after chasing the threads, again use the shop vac best you can and get out any remaining debris.

    I agree manifold could be Tarantula, if I remember correctly some early ones had a symbol of the Tarantula was cast into the manifold, maybe it's hidden under some grease or road grime.


    $$$$$$$$$ correction I believe the SCORPION manifold had a fiqure cast into it $$$$$$$$$$


    Best of luck, that is a great piece you have there.
     
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  6. Ha Ha!

    Yea you're right! :D

    With all these numbers flying around it'll be interesting to see what the cubes actually are. ;)
     
  7. Fixed it. :p
     
  8. theHIGHLANDER
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    If you were closer I'd just come over and throw some $$$$ at you and take it home. Good stuff there, old school for sure, but good none the less.
     
  9. Gman0046
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    Did someone actually think this was a Ford engine?
     
  10. I'm finishing up a Chevrolet engine now that has the distributor in the front.....................it's driven by a small gimore belt so why split hairs. :rolleyes:
     
  11. henryj1951
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    :eek:,,,
     
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  12. henryj1951
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    I heavy on the I I am so good at what i do i feel the need to pat myself on the back all day see the sarcasm there ?
     
  13. henryj1951
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    I heavy on the II am so good at what i do i feel the need to pat myself on the back all day see the sarcasm there ?

    :cool:
     
  14. fastlane666
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    those heads are factory chevy performance heads with 202 and 1.6 valves. the pistons are high compression atleast 11 to 1. however that block does not have a pcv or road tube port cast into the rear of the block. that tells me it was cast after 1967. also it is probably a large journal crank shaft. with out part numbers i'm guessing 350 cu. in. if you could share a picture of the back of the crank i could confirm it 100%. if the casting on the back of the block behind the left bank reads 3970010 you almost definitly have a 350. oh and those heads will need to be redone to run unleaded. you need stainless steel valves.
     
  15. henryj1951
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    ah yep
     
  16. henryj1951
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    theres a 69 327 in the back with casting ending in 010

    :cool:
     
  17. BOOB
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    You guys are killing me
     
  18. teejay99
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    ...should be a prize for whomever gets it right ....coupla Happy Meals from Mickey D's !

    T
     
  19. I would say it's a small block Chevy - must be a Corvette motor that came stock in '32 Fords. :rolleyes:
     
  20. Man you guys are just killin' MrModelT's thread.
     
  21. falcongeorge
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    I posted earlier about the rectangle cast into the intake in the photo of the carb but deleted it, as I had some incorrect info in there. The early tarantulas I saw didnt have the rectangle, but I have since found photos of tarantulas with the "TM-1" cast inside a raised rectangle just like the Torkers. However, on the Tarantulas I saw with a rectangle, theres a fair bit of space between the edge of the rectangle and the T. You can just barely see it in this photo, so I am kind of winging it here, but the proximity of the T to the edge of the rectangle makes me think that might be a Torker.

    And I agree 100% about this being a great piece. Looks like a really nicely built high end 70s small block
     

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  22. henryj1951
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    and only time will tell
     
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  23. coupemerc
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    I could be wrong but I think that the Tarantula had an air gap below the runners. The Torker did not.
     
  24. Mac30
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    Nice motor... looks like a well built early 350. Motor was more and likely decked (shaved) for the oring install thats why no numbers are on the pad. I would put money on it that the heads are shaved also. If so Compression ratio is going to be a up there for pump gas. If the heads are milled your compression will be more 11 to 1... how much depends on how much meat the heads had taken off them.
    Would like to see head/crank/main cap casting #s...
     
  25. MrModelT
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    Thank you both for the Info! The manifold is clean, but I will have to look at it to confirm exactly what it is.

    As for new pics...I will try to grab a few tonight If I can swing over to Mom and Dad's ...but most likely it will be this weekend.

    Distance is relative...you're ONLY in Michigan :D

    </heavy>
     
  26. Model T1
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    Originally Posted by 53mercury [​IMG]
    Ah yes, Special Ford engine. Obviously the best one they ever built. Mike

    Glad I'm not the only member here who's not always serious. MrModelT has figured out who knows these Ford engines and who's just blowin steam up his tailpipe!
    This has been proven to be a special Mustang engine and like millions of other orange Ford engines, works well in Fords of all years and body styles. Almost like they were made for Fords.
    The reasonthis thread continues is because it is rare that Chevy guys get to discuss Ford engines this much. Ain't it great we have so much in common. Now if only those Mopar boys could be so friendly!:)
     
  27. henryj1951
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    :cool:your welcome mr

    :cool:
     
  28. tjet
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    You can also use shaving cream to fill any openings you want to cover. It will vacuum up easy too.

    The Scorpion is a higher rise intake design (& the little figure in it too).
     
  29. BOOB
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    What the hell are you talking about? I'm worried about you sir. I read this as you're dead serious. If you're joking you're doing a poor job.
     
  30. henryj1951
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