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Discussion in 'The Hokey Ass Message Board' started by C9, May 21, 2009.

  1. I bought a pair of 15x7 wheels marked "A.W." Is that Ansen?

    Looking for a pair of matching 15x4,5,6, or 7" with a 5x4.5" bolt pattern.



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  2. Anybody know if any manufacturers ever made 17" slots?

    Maybe 17"x9" or 17"x10" ?
  3. Stumbled across these this week. They are the exact opposite of what I'm hunting (15"x4"-ish with a 5x4.5" bolt pattern) but I couldn't pass them up.

    15"x12", big Ford 5x5.5" bolt pattern. They are in the classifieds now.



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  4. banginona40
    Joined: Mar 5, 2007
    Posts: 759


    As a kid for me it was Americans or nothing. Ansens or Fentons just seemed cheap. Now I have become really attracted to the slotted mags and am looking but it seems like the 6" wide 14's or 15's are pretty rare. A lot of 7" out there but I think they are too wide for a fenderless car and you can't get much of a tire on a 3 1/2" wide wheel. Unless you are building a T bucket or a gasser. American seems to make an Ansen copy but not in 6" wide.
    Joined: Jun 11, 2006
    Posts: 548


    Didn't see any of these American Racing Spirit wheels that I just aquired on a look through of this thread, doesn't seem to be much info on them out there either.

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  6. mrconcdid
    Joined: Aug 31, 2010
    Posts: 1,157

    from Florida

    IMG_20150523_120841_033.jpg I dig slots too.
    Picked these up on craigslist, no clue who made them.
    15x7 and 15x8.5

    Godspeed MrC.
    Joined: Jun 11, 2006
    Posts: 548


    Those slots look badass on there...
  8. Just picked up these 15x10's US Indy and 15x8.5's Forsight. 20161114_182715.jpg
  9. Fenton Gyro 15 x 3.5's
    Appliance 15 x 10's
    Shelby 15 x 11's


    US Indy 15 x 10's added in and another pair of Fenton Gyros

    Last edited: Mar 30, 2020
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  10. Bought these Appliance 15x10's not realizing the lug holes were 7/8's instead of the normal 11/16's, no idea why, but definitely a problem

    So I had the machine shop make some steel press in inserts to save them

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  11. alphabet soup
    Joined: Jan 8, 2011
    Posts: 1,545

    alphabet soup

    While everyone is talking Slots. I am looking for something like a 15x4, 4on4.5. Anyone ever seen a pair??
  12. jnaki
    Joined: Jan 1, 2015
    Posts: 6,079


    Ever wonder about CAR DESIGN SYMMETRY? We all know about the early Halibrand Magnesium Wheels and how/why they were used on the race cars back then. What is the most telling thing about such a cool looking wheel? It just spells race car when looking at the wheel and tire combination, on just about any hot rod.

    “Halibrand Engineering, as far as American wheels are concerned, without a doubt, all paths in the alloy wheel world lead here. Founded by a Douglas Aircraft service rep in 1947, Halibrand Engineering set the mold by making molds for the first performance-oriented American road wheels.”

    “Ted Halibrand began making 12-inch wheels for Midget race cars. (Until then racers made their wheels by welding utility trailer rims to Model T drums.) He then cast wheels for the Rudge-derived hubs that Indianapolis roadsters used, but when he encountered wear problems in the broach, he drew upon his Midget racing roots and made his own hubs. Like the Midget hubs they engaged the wheel at six mounting points, and like the Rudge hub one oversized fastener held the wheel tight. The six-pin knock-off wheel prevailed in nearly every form of racing for decades thereafter.”

    Using Halibrand Wheels was the epitome of top quality wheels for custom cars and hot rods. Street cars, hot rods and show cars had them as the top of the line wheels for extra looks and points.
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    “It’s a good idea to have any vintage Halibrand professionally crack tested, not because Magnesium is inherently crack prone but because of the rough lives most of these wheels lived.”


    Today, the Halibrand Wheels can be seen on most top quality hot rods as the “old vintage” look, makes the newly built hot rod seem old, but show room quality.

    The one thing that is puzzling from an design symmetry standpoint is: How does a three point knock off hub fit into the total design of 5 ridges, lugs and holes for cooling? In our industrial drawing classes in junior and senior high school, we were shown how design symmetry is very important. So, how does a famous wheel design that probably started it all for most everyone, have questions about design?
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    It is/was fun to draw our versions of these wheels, including the 5 hole kidney bean slotted ones. But it was always a chore to put on the 3 spoke knock off hub adapter to ruin a symmetrical 5 hole design. As the slots got bigger, the 3 spoke knock off infringed on the overall slotted design. No one seemed to mind after all, it was a Halibrand wheel.



    “This is the Halibrand that most of us know. The one with the trapezoidal brow around the brake vent. Note that the vent remains as an oval hole below. Also not the wing nut and five pin pressure plate used to convert conventional passenger car hubs to knock off use (this is a Corvette road racer). Real Rodder’s wheels and Halibrand Performance produce this as a bolt on aluminum wheel.”

    When the original American Racing Torq Thrust Wheels came out, they were accepted by drag racers and street hot rod guy as well. Then the massive flood of knock offs (pun intended) started showing up with their own design versions including real knock off three prong spinner caps.

    “The Sprint wasn’t Ansen’s first wheel. That distinction goes to a Torq Thrust copy called the Top Eliminator and two semi original wheels called The Arrow and Apollo. The Apollo was a true knock off design complete with its own hub that used special lug nuts as locating pins.”
    A five spoke, three prong knock off…

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  13. I miss @C9 's thinking-out-loud, stream-of-consciousness posts. :(

    My 15x3.5" Fenton Gyros ("pizza cutters").
    Glass beaded with polished lips.:)
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  14. DDDenny
    Joined: Feb 6, 2015
    Posts: 15,169

    from oregon

  15. Packrat
    Joined: Aug 25, 2005
    Posts: 498


    Those are good looking wheels!
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  16. Bart 15 x 3.75 very light aluminum slots
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  17. 15x3.5 Fenton Gyros I just polished


    And some unpolished

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  18. Ansen used to make 15x4.5, anything other than the 3" wheel seems to be on the half inch. LOL

    The old man used to get 4 lug slots from that same euro company that made or makes minis. Konig I think
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  19. Kan Kustom
    Joined: Jul 20, 2009
    Posts: 2,676

    Kan Kustom

    That is one bad ass Model A.
  20. Ericnova72
    Joined: May 1, 2007
    Posts: 468


  21. I have no idea, the guy I got them from didn't know much about them either, like you a tried looking them up too, one guy online speculated the 80's. I always thought Bart was dirt track roundy round stuff only, never knew they made anything this narrow.
  22. Ericnova72
    Joined: May 1, 2007
    Posts: 468


    Thanks, that's what I figured too. I worked for a competing wheel company in the late 1980's and I don't remember Bart being into Drag wheels at all either. They probably only did it a very short amount of time.
    I had a thought flash across my mind of maybe Sprint fronts....but even in the time I was doing them we were building 8" or 8.5" just as fronts, nothing any narrower. Plus Sprints were all 6-Pin Knock-off , not 5 lug..
    My other thought is sand rail front/VW Beetle drag wheels, as the last few years late versions of the Beetle had that smaller wheel bolt pattern.
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  23. Ww58bandit
    Joined: Sep 25, 2020
    Posts: 3


    Hello I have just brought these slots could anyone identify what make they are please. They are 15x11 with a 4.5x5 PCD and believe they are 4" back spacing

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  24. ShakeyPuddin55
    Joined: Dec 22, 2004
    Posts: 1,902


    Fenton Gyros
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  25. Ww58bandit
    Joined: Sep 25, 2020
    Posts: 3


    Aren't the Fenton Gyros wheel nut holes inline with the spokes not offset, so does it very on the size??
  26. To my knowledge only two companies made 15x11 , Fenton Gyros and Shelby Cal 500's, the Shelby is a different color/kind of aluminum.
    Here's my Shelby's in 15x11

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    Shelby's top row, Appliance bottom row, showing the difference in the color of the aluminum

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  27. gimpyshotrods
    Joined: May 20, 2009
    Posts: 18,470


    Yeah, I ended up powder coating my mismatched slots.

    The fronts are Shelby's.

    I can confirm that they are a different color, a lighter alloy, and made in Italy.
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  28. Ww58bandit
    Joined: Sep 25, 2020
    Posts: 3


    They are defo shelby found markings on the rear of the wheel on close inspection, was not very noticeable as they have been spray black

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  29. 15x11 Fenton Gyros

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