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Simple & effective engine mounts

Discussion in 'The Hokey Ass Message Board' started by Probesport, Jan 11, 2010.

  1. One of the cars I bought about a year ago had a fairly cobbled together frame, this winter I decided to take it apart and make some things right - start with these ghastly giant cut-from-another-car engine mounts.

    I made the replacements with items that I had in my shop and using the existing ones as a guide since everything measured up as it should. I removed one mount then put engine in, measured and levelled out then created teh new one. Once I had one side created and installed I removed the other old one then created that side.

    There is still more I am doing with the frame, including xmember, some boxing, patching, etc but at least this part is done. May not be up to some of the real pro's but I'm happy with it.

    Drivers mount removed, passenger still in place.
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    Welded square tube to round tube, which was heated and oblonged for a little bit of adjustment.
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    Upper support plate, plasma cut out of flat stock.
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    Mount ready to be installed.
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    Side by side with old ridiculous thing.
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    Welded in.
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    Both sides in.
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    Engine in.
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  2. bigblockdude402
    Joined: Oct 1, 2009
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    Nice fabrication. I'm still at the pre-fabbed motor-mount stage. I might get brave one of these days.
     
  3. harrington
    Joined: Jul 22, 2009
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    harrington
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    from Indiana

    Looks a million times better.
     
  4. Mark H
    Joined: May 18, 2009
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    Mark H
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    from Scotland

    Nice work,vast improvement.
    Mark
     

  5. Ruiner
    Joined: May 17, 2004
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    Ruiner
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    Great job man, and the speed holes will help cut the wind resistance ;)
     
  6. Von Rigg Fink
    Joined: Jun 11, 2007
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    from Garage

    Nice and clean, like those
     
  7. Flatheadguy
    Joined: Dec 2, 2008
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    Very nicely done and they didn't come from a catalog. A guy who BUILDS his car. Thank you!!
     
  8. Boozer
    Joined: Sep 25, 2009
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    Is there a rubber isolator hidden in between the tubing and the bolt? LOVE the design, but curious about the vibration isolation.
     
  9. newfalconowner
    Joined: Jul 26, 2009
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    from NS Canada

    nice job, i jsut might have to re-do mine
     

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  10. Thanks for the compliments guys, much appreciated.

    It hits the factory GM mounts on the engine.
     
  11. mattcrp1
    Joined: Aug 20, 2007
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    clean and simple, very nice
     
  12. scrap metal 48
    Joined: Sep 6, 2009
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    Are you using cross steering? Is there room for steering box? Can't tell by pics... I like the simple but effective mounts though............
     
  13. Yes the steering box fits right next to the drivers mount, you can see the box in the first pic.
     
  14. Stevie Nash
    Joined: Oct 24, 2007
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    It's obvious you have NO idea what you are doing... :rolleyes: Nice work!
     
  15. I assure you it's all smoke & mirrors.
     
  16. Here's a shot when I started tearing down, you can see the steering box and the linkage. This is nowhere near as tight anymore as it was in this pic with those old nasty mounts in there.
     

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  17. Looks good. You might want to consider some front-to-rear gusseting. That engine weighs A LOT when you punch it or have to slam on the brakes. If it was all solid you probably wouldn't have to worry, but that factory isolator will let the thru bolt twist a little if the mount tries to bend.
     
  18. billibob1980
    Joined: Dec 8, 2008
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    Nice and simple... What a difference it makes. Well done.
     
  19. I still have to build the crossmember, when I do that I have plans for some fore/aft bracing when it gets tied together.
     
  20. wyoruffneck
    Joined: Apr 12, 2009
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  21. CheapCat
    Joined: Feb 5, 2008
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    CheapCat
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    from Illinois

    Man that is a vast improvement great work!
     
  22. Johnny Clash
    Joined: Dec 21, 2005
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    Mounts look great. Wish I had a plasma cutter.
     
  23. I love having a plasma cutter, it's one of those tools that you kick yourself for not getting sooner.

    For what it's done for me it has more than paid for itself.
     
  24. burger
    Joined: Sep 19, 2002
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    Is the bracket on the upper left of the engine for an alternator or generator? Short or long water pump?


    Thanks,
    Ed

    PS- Nice work on the brackets.
     
  25. Not a critique, but a suggestion: the factory had those frame mounts designed with a pad that would allow the engine to rest on the frame mount, the bolt existing more for location than actual holding.

    The way you have that set up requires the bolt to hold the weight of the engine at all times. Add a pad, and the weight rests on the frame. AND the bolt becomes a LOT easier to put in/take out.

    Cosmo
     
  26. It's an alternator bracket, and I don;t know if it's long or short, never measured it and I'm new enough to SBC's to not recognize it off the bat.

    I hear ya, and I was contemplating that alot when I made them. The pad does slightly rest on the oblonged tube, I can put the bolts in when its sitting on them, but more of a flat surface is probably best. I did make some small round discs when I made these that I was going to weld on but I ended up not using them. I probably should huh?
     
  27. nutajunka
    Joined: Jan 24, 2007
    Posts: 1,464

    nutajunka

    Short pump will almost touch your timimg cover, viewed from on top, the long pump will have a gap between them and the casting will be different in a few places for accs. Even the fan bolt pattern is different on alot of them.
     
  28. nutajunka
    Joined: Jan 24, 2007
    Posts: 1,464

    nutajunka

    Also the factory engine mounts you have, have a way of retaining the engine in place just in case the rubber gives way, without the pad "previous pad meationed above" it might be able to swivel the safety feature from the mount. You don't want that. I've also found most of those mounts to be made else where if you know what I mean. Don't take any of this advice wrong, because I think you are making a vast improvement over the old one's for sure. Just trying to keep you safe...;)
     
  29. Great advice and I am not taking any of it for granted. These are the first mounts I have ever made so a little direction is appreciated. I will see what I can sneak in there without too much obviousness.
     
  30. pasadenahotrod
    Joined: Feb 13, 2007
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    pasadenahotrod
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    from Texas

    Interesting use of a Falcon/Mustang/Cougar/Maverick/Comet steering box mounted in stock style position and steering down the side rail by moving the pitman arm 90 degrees on the sector shaft rather than the usual ahead of engine mount cross-steer or upside down mount with pointing up pitman arm for fore-aft steer.
     

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