I was thinkin' he was pretty close to twice my age and I'm no spring chicken. There was a joke about that during a certain police action. When someone says get down don't jump up and start dancing. I think the key is to get them tucked in such a way as to ad to the lines of the car and not look like an after thought. I don't particularly care for them when the headers look like sprint car headers. More often than not those just look awkward. Last year the week before The Drags we built a set of headers with side pipes in mind for the Raven's '27. The tubes ended up being a bunch of snakes that lay in real close to the frame and the collector is just under the cowl. The deal with the ravens car is that the chassis is a boxed T chassis so there is room under the floor boards for the pipes to lay. Painted or ceramic coated black the will almost disappear. I wish I had a pic to post, they are still running turnouts on the end of the collector but eventually they will be running pipes that run back and duck out in front of the rear wheels.