I did the search thing, I have better luck putting my query followed by HAMB in Google than I do using the search on here (no fault but my own, limited e-techie skillz)...I find old posts and don't want to raise one from the dead, so here goes. I've tried in vain to find a suitable saucepan lid with the curve to it, in my hillbilly town there aren't ANY stainless lids with the pots/pans in the stores, just glass...so I settled for a $13 3 qt sauce pan from Antichrist*Mart...cut the bottom off, drilled out the center, stuck it on my buffer/polisher/bondo hog sander only to find it didn't get things hot enough to do anything whatsoever. This former pan bottom is about 1/8" thick...might be dissipating heat too quickly, or not enough RPMs with the sander, or both? Here's the question part: for you guys/gals that LOVE shrinking discs, which do you prefer? The 7" ones or the 4.5" ones? My hillfolk understanding of physics is just enough to make me think the surface area of the smaller diameter would be more effective/efficient due to less surface area meaning less heat dissipation would equal better heat; whereas, the larger one would have the ability to use inertia and centrifugal force and all that good stuff to the extent it might just be better than the smaller one? Folks around here still swear by either using a torch to heat shrink stuff or just caving and paving with plastic filler...not my idea of proper metal work. Hoping to draw on the vast knowledge and experience on the H.A.M.B. I know I'm full of questions lately, I've been on a hiatus since the times when I was on the HAMB daily, working on old cars, driving cross country to shows, etc etc...had a stroke a few years back and there's just a lot of stuff I no longer remember how to do. My apologies if anyone thinks I'm a nuisance...well, kind of...I still have bits of the "if you don't like me then (censored) you" attitude, but I'm pondering the afterlife and kinda wanna keep in good standing with the man upstairs...so a kinder gentler hillbilly is what you folks get.