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Technical Should I buy Woodward Fab Tools?

Discussion in 'The Hokey Ass Message Board' started by smith541, Mar 29, 2016.

  1. smith541
    Joined: Feb 24, 2016
    Posts: 3


    I’m getting into the fabrication business, and I’m looking to set up my garage. I was thinking of buying my tools from one manufacturer to make it easier. A friend suggested that I go in for Woodward Fab. I also checked their Ebay Store. The company has got some decent reviews. Has anyone used any Woodward Fab tools? Would you recommend that I buy their products?:)
    Last edited: Mar 29, 2016
  2. chevyfordman
    Joined: Oct 4, 2008
    Posts: 1,283


    I have their brake roller combo tool, I would not recommend their tools. I had to cut the brake apart so I could ajust the leaf for a radius. The welds are just bondo covered to make them look good. Poorly made Chinese stuff. MO
  3. Oldbill51
    Joined: Jun 12, 2011
    Posts: 284


    x-2, some of their tools would be ok for hobbyist, but I would not attempt to use them in a commercial application.
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  4. 29moonshine
    Joined: Dec 30, 2006
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  5. linechaser32
    Joined: Apr 8, 2006
    Posts: 1,393

    from Iowa

  6. Blue One
    Joined: Feb 6, 2010
    Posts: 11,425

    Blue One
    from Alberta

    Stay away. If you want serious metal working tools to make a living with, it will mean a serious investment.
    I have gotten by with lesser tools mainly because I'm only doing hobby work.
    Look here.
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  7. aaggie
    Joined: Nov 21, 2009
    Posts: 2,530


    Most of their stuff looks like the same junk from Harbor Freight. If I were starting over or going professional I would contact Bailegh(?) on here and talk to them. They are Alliance members and offer a discount. You will never regret buying quality.
  8. Bearcat_V8
    Joined: Sep 21, 2011
    Posts: 386

    from Dexter, MI

    You might look into and maybe as well. They are both located in the Detroit area.
  9. Hot Rods Ta Hell
    Joined: Apr 20, 2008
    Posts: 4,627

    Hot Rods Ta Hell

    Search here or online for reviews before you buy any new metal working equipment. Though Baleigh is better than most, some of their line is from off shore so it depends on what particular machine you buy and what level of product warranty comes with it.
    Each product page states where that specific model is made. We make products in manufacturing plants all over the world. We currently have factories in the USA, Portugal, Italy, Poland, England, Germany, China, and Taiwan.

    If you're truly going to set up a commercial shop, you need industrial grade for most machines. Your best bet is to buy solid, good condition, used, USA made equipment from Pexto, Whitney, Chicago, etc.
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  10. We use the brake at work, its probably best for a home garage, but would not suggest using for a business. the table leaf broke at the hinge pin one day while i was using-not a great feeling when that slips from your hands from the weight, then watching as it swings down toward your feet. They were pretty quick to send out replacement parts though
  11. I bought from Baileigh Industrial, I am happy with my purchase.HRP

  12. bobby831
    Joined: Feb 24, 2016
    Posts: 5


    What type of machine are you looking for? I bought a manual tube and pipe bender from Woodward Fab (the WFB2). And I kinda like it. It bends both round and square tubing up to 2’. It’s made from steel, so it has been able to take a lot of abuse. The ratcheting system is easy to use, and does not require a lot of effort. So you don’t feel tired very quickly. Other Woodward Fab tools include an optional stand, but I don’t think that is included. The price is cheap, compared to other brands. Making motorcycle frames and car chassis has become easier due to the machine.
  13. What are you using currently?
  14. I was going to suggest baileigh ^^^ as well, Woodward tools are for hobbyists. They are not made for everyday fab use.
  15. I bought some Woodward Fab stuff when I opened my shop, within a couple of years, all had been replaced due to not being up to snuff for a 50 hours a week, 4 man shop.
  16. Mr48chev
    Joined: Dec 28, 2007
    Posts: 33,085


    If you're truly going to set up a commercial shop, you need industrial grade for most machines. Your best bet is to buy solid, good condition, used, USA made equipment from Pexto, Whitney, Chicago, etc.[/QUOTE]

    Great answer right there. I wouldn't pass up asking at hvac shops if they have any surplus equipment they are planning on selling too. Lots of time that manual piece of equipment that has become obsolete for them is just what you are looking for when they upgrade. I saw a brake that was too big and way too heavy for anything I wanted the other day as I think it may handle 10 ft pieces sitting outside some guys shop when I drove by and thought dang that's one nice piece of equipment to be sitting outside in the weather. A local long time as in 70 years machine shop is selling off a lot of their old equipment a piece at a time it seems and while it is all way too big for a home shop they have some interesting stuff that will probably last another hundred years.
    Plus remember if a prospective customer walks into your shop and sees primarily "hobby shop" equipment he is going to assume you have a hobby shop rather than a pro shop.
  17. CLM
    Joined: Feb 12, 2008
    Posts: 178


    I've got a Woodward fab bead roller (modified), throat less shear and English wheel. They are better than harbor freight, thicker metal, more adjustments, grease zerks. But they are absolutely hobbiest equipment, turn out hobbiest results and would not stand up to a production shop.

    Here is my head roller. About $250 into it and 50 lbs of steal. But couldn't justify a Mitler brothers if it wasn't helping pay the bills.

    Granted, I bought their lower line of tools. But their "professional" grade cost as much as the good brands. So you might as well buy the good brands.
  18. Engine man
    Joined: Jan 30, 2011
    Posts: 3,480

    Engine man
    from Wisconsin

    I looked on the Baileigh website and I don't see anything about where the product is made on the product pages.
  19. Hot Rods Ta Hell
    Joined: Apr 20, 2008
    Posts: 4,627

    Hot Rods Ta Hell

    It's under FAQ's;

    I haven't seen mostly positive reviews on their stuff. Just that you'd want to research and compare like you would when shopping for anything. You and I have an advantage in that they have So. Ca. and WI showrooms where we could actually see/try the product rather than order from a catalog pic.
  20. Vics stuff
    Joined: May 24, 2014
    Posts: 425

    Vics stuff

    I am in the same situation. In the next 2 years I am going to set myself up with some shop equipment. I as mentioned , plan on driving to some of these places to actually have a look see and physically look at their products. With decades of experience in buying junk and quality shop tools , I found it is better to step up to the plate and bite the bullet. Only want to do this once.
  21. jim5823
    Joined: Apr 1, 2016
    Posts: 2


    I have a bead roller from Woodward Fab so will use that as an example. The price is cheap, and it is similar in design to harbor freight. One big difference is that the WF roller is heavier. You may have to add some sort of bracing to stiffen the frame. The good thing about WF is that they have a variety of bead rollers to choose from. They even have products from other manufacturers. The price of their power bead rollers ranges from $900 to about $2000 (check the prices, not completely sure.) Their designs are simple, and easy to use. The bead rollers have 18ga capacity. Dies are interchangeable. I think you can also ask them for a stand, but that will cost extra. Overall, it’s a good bet.
  22. Who gets into a fabrication business without knowing anything about tools?
    JOYFLEA and weps like this.
  23. flatmotor40
    Joined: Apr 14, 2010
    Posts: 600

    from georgia

    CLM what motor did you use and gear size
  24. flatmotor40
    Joined: Apr 14, 2010
    Posts: 600

    from georgia

    CLM What is the thickest metal you can roll
  25. Hi guys, Thank you for mentioning Woodward-Fab.

    A little history - Woodward-Fab is a trade mark of Heck Industries, est 1966
    Some of our products are made in our factory in Michigan. We manufacture a large line of plate bevelers, bench model nibblers, a patented line of weld shavers, tube benders, work holding clamps and more. We locally contract some tools. And we import some items from, China, Germany, Spain, Taiwan, Canada, Italy, etc,

    We sell not only our own product line but we also represent manufactures such as Edwards, Tennsmith, Ecroclina, Founier, JMT, Scotchman, etc.

    We offer no products from the same suppliers to Harbor Freight or Grizzly. We do offer a few items from the same manufactures as Baileigh sources from.

    All of our tools carry a minimum of a 1 year warranty.

    If you have any questions on any tool or application please call us at 1-800-391-5419

    Thank you,
    Phil Heck
    Car Guy and President
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