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Technical Serial numbe/vin relocation?

Discussion in 'The Hokey Ass Message Board' started by anthony myrick, Nov 19, 2018.

  1. anthony myrick
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    the vin tag on my van is welded to the steering column.

    Is it ok to remove and relocate it?
     
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  2. squirrel
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    Talk to a lawyer...not guys who fix cars.
     
  3. anthony myrick
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    Students asked me that question and I didn’t have an answer
     
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  4. partsdawg
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    Lot easier to see as opposed to being stamped on the frame.
    Why do you want to move it?
     
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  5. anthony myrick
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    Changing the steering column
     
  6. anthony myrick
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    Luckily I live in Bama and this van is 60+ years old
     
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  7. squirrel
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    Have the students do some research into the state laws about tampering with vehicle numbers.
     
  8. I would ask your local DMV via email or Mail so you have a record
     
  9. anthony myrick
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    Out of all the old junk I have built I have never had to remove one.
    I like the student research idea
     
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  10. Jalopy Joker
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    what year is it?
     
  11. anthony myrick
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    57 Chevy / Gerstenslager

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  12. squirrel
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    I have a 55 Chevy bread truck with the serial number on the column.

    Corvettes had the same thing from 53-62. Might look into the issues they have...
     
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  13. anthony myrick
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    Forgot about vettes. Thanks
    A friend of mine builds those
    I know a lot of those have columns changed so normal sized people can drive em
     
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  14. F&J
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    tag removal/or relocation is not legal in my state of CT, except if the DMV officer does it for reasons such as if replacing a rotted truck cab being replaced with a donor cab that must also has legal paperwork. In those cases, a State Issued number is put on the cab by that Officer, not the old tag. Each State must have their own Statutes on such things.

    If it were me, I'd re-use that part of the original column, even shortened, or modified as needed, but not removing the tag itself....but I am not a you. Checking in person, with your own DMV officials is the best way IMO

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  15. RmK57
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    The way I understand is your not supposed to use a vin plate to register a vehicle. Lots do and get away with it but a serial number on the frame is what my dmv wanted to see.

    I know on 60's and later fords the door plate or sticker even says ' not for title or registration'.

    I ran into all sorts of problems with this when the door on my 65 Falcon was replaced.
     
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  16. squirrel
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    There are lots of different types of VIN or serial number stamps or tags on different vehicles. There are 50 different states in the US, each with it's own laws and regulations. It's not likely that many of us will know the details of what you can and cannot do on every type of vehicle, in every state.

    The 57 chevy truck should have a partial serial number stamped on the frame, near the steering box. It would be missing the first two characters, which tell what model vehicle it is (not a big deal, since you can tell just by looking at the frame what model it is).
     
  17. anthony myrick
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    I may be able to use the tube from the steering column
    When I had my bus tagged, the officer looked at the tag on the glove box lid and made sure it matched the paper work. That was super easy. I want the van to be the same way
     
  18. anthony myrick
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    Yep it’s there and students have been told to stay away from it

    I clipped my bus but saved the frame section with the vin in case there were any issues
     
  19. topher5150
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    what if you don't have a VIN on the car
     
  20. Nowhere? In Missouri you would now own a big lawn ornament.
     
  21. s55mercury66
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    Here in the US, that is considered the warranty plate, and that number on that plate does not neccessarily have to match the VIN, or in older cases, the serial number, even though all the ones I have looked at do. Those plates call that number the "Warranty Number".
     

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