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September banger meet

Discussion in 'The Hokey Ass Message Board' started by BHT8BALL, Sep 3, 2011.

  1. BHT8BALL
    Joined: Aug 22, 2010
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    Hope this isn't too late for the new thread. Here's pictures in progress of our new 2-piece cylinder head for pop-up domed pistons. The pieces will be joined by aluminum dip-brazing, re heat-treated and then final machining. With std. bore and our design piston the comp. ratio will be 9:1, with 4.0 bore this increases to 9.5. Front surface of head is designed to allow either stock A pattern or 21 stud V8 pump. Provision is made for the stock dist. but it will not be drilled thru as these heads were intended to be used with our front cover with the dist. mount. With our skills & the small quantity to be made, the cost of a (good) casting would be a lot more in time & $$$$ so we decided on fabricating them. Certainly no purist would be caught with one!
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    Here is the banger link list .


    For the HAMB banger newbies, here are some links to a lot of banger info:

    Flat Ernie maintains the monthly link list. Every month is listed:

    http://www.jalopyjournal.com/forum/s...d.php?t=161498



    Banger basics. another info link list:

    http://www.fordgarage.com/

    http://www.billsbangers.com

    http://www.plucks329s.org/index.htm

    http://www.jalopyjournal.com/forum/s...d.php?t=251717

    http://www.jalopyjournal.com/forum/s...ad.php?t=42480

    Post #105 of link below shows flywheel lightening dimensions
    http://www.jalopyjournal.com/forum/s...=470853&page=6


    Engine tuning with a Vacuum gauge
    http://www.centuryperformance.com/tu...e-spg-148.html

    Adjusting dual Strombergs:
    http://www.jalopyjournal.com/forum/s...61#post6638461

    Helpful Model A tools and tips:

    http://www.maurer-markus.ch/ford_a/tipps.index.en.html

    Elrod's stuck head tech:

    http://www.jalopyjournal.com/forum/s...d.php?t=218487

    Model A generator to alternator conversion:

    http://ejwhitneyco.com/automotive.html

    Gear ratio / speed and RPM calculator:

    http://www.accuautoparts.com/calculatorfin.jsp


    Model A master cylinder mounting bracket ideas:

    http://www.jalopyjournal.com/forum/s...73#post4953173

    Go here to read the 1931 edition of Harry Ricardo's book "The High Speed Internal Combustion Engine"

    http://www.scribd.com/full/40610101?...icdancrnxypd05


    Chevy Banger Stuff

    http://www.jalopyjournal.com/forum/s...d.php?t=463465

    http://www.scribd.com/doc/22469332/T...e-Ricardo-1931

    Post 198 starts a great discussion of the shape of a flat head combustion chamber

    http://www.jalopyjournal.com/forum/s...470853&page=10

    Maybe these links should be posted early in each months meeting.

    If anyone knows of more, please post them.
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    T-5 5 speed in a Torque Tube:
    http://www.jalopyjournal.com/forum/s...d.php?t=256226
     

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  2. RussTee
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    Pat right up to your usual standard great work these will look great with your front cover .I think this is the new tradition hotrodding does not stand still this is new work done in traditional style it would also be a shame to polish your work the finish is that good great to see someone push the boat out this is the new old the next step in traditional hotrodding well done
     
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  4. 38FLATTIE
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    That looks to be very well thought out and machined!

    Very nice!
     
  5. RussTee
    Joined: Mar 25, 2008
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    Sept Banger Meet looks like this is it?
     
  6. RussTee
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    Look at earlier posts by BHT8BALL and be amazed love the workmanship
     
  7. I don't have anything to buy or sell but i think that is a nice piece of work. What are you going to use for intake valves? What diameter? I'm considering 1 7/8" next time I pull the engine down. Probably open the seat area up to 1 5/8". I will have to go with a CI Winfield "Crows Foot" to get clearance.
     
  8. Jimmy2car
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    Just curious, what is the reason for the new head? More power? What?
    Thanks
     
  9. BCCHOPIT
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    thanks for the barger porn....WOW:D:D:D
     
  10. noboD
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    Good looking way to start the month. How about some more details?
     
  11. "Certainly no purist would be caught with one!"
    This looks very pure to me 8 Ball ! You do amazing stuff with that unobtainium.:)
    Ron
    p.s. purists as in antiquers, trad rodders, new rodders ,street rodders ? I think Ricky said it best in "The Garden Party"....Can't please evryone so you got to please yourself.... Keep up the great work .
     
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  12. BCCHOPIT
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    The only thing new to me is my new
    Tach. Now to find the time to put it in
    [​IMG]
     
  13. Bluto
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    I got a huge box-0-them at a truck meet. Not one I could use but they look nice :)
     
  14. Gaters
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    I am checkin in to keep tabs on you guys.
     
  15. Bluto
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    Ron did you get the carbs sortted out?
     
  16. The37Kid
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    Fastest Bugatti GP cat at Lime Rock today, it is 1932 Ford 4Banger powered. The Conversion was made back in 1938.
     

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  17. Bluto
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    Bob It's good indeed to see you up and running :):)
     
  18. Dynaflash_8
    Joined: Sep 24, 2008
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    from Auburn WA

    just took my 30 coupe, stock banger on a 119 mile run up to get huckleberrys today. Total elevation of 6000 feet.

    what fun!

    crappy pic.

    [​IMG]
     
  19. drove the side roads up to the cheaters show last weekend.
    round trip was 107 miles
    average 16 mpg at 50 mph and only one quart of oil
    and some sunburn
    loven it
    tk
     
  20. Bluto; I did order a pair of Grose Jets for the Zeniths but they haven't arrived yet. I have been working most of the week (I check drawings for engineering offices on an "as needed" basis) and have been trying to catch up on a bunch of neglected issues around the house and on the "every day":( cars. I am going out to the shop this afternoon however, to check a few items off your list. Thanks again for your help and concern and I will keep you up to date with my findings.
    Hope you are feeling better Jim:)
    Ron
     
  21. Bluto
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    Hey I wasn't pushing just looking for some good news.
     
  22. I knew that Jim and I'm sorry if you thought that I was being sarcastic. I wouldn't be that way , I was just telling you what was up as you were kind enough to offer your help when I asked for it.
    Ron
     
  23. BHT8BALL
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    RussTee, I don't know the proper format for starting a thread but decided to just get wet! Welcome any suggestions, Pat
     
  24. BHT8BALL
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    Bill & others, thanks for your appreciation for all the hard work, I am now learning from my son & couldn't have done this without his help. Son Brian has a '29 rpu in progress, thru helping me with banger projects he is now considering not using a V8 flathead and installing a banger! ( Applause now please! ) Hope we can keep the bangers alive a few more generations. Bill, the finished chamber will allow a 1 7/8 intake & 1.7 exhaust valve. There is also room for an oversize cam with lift up to .500, this head will accept the Best 509C head gasket. Pat
     
  25. BHT8BALL
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    The intent is that with higher compression without restricting the transfer passage will translate into more hp. Next project is to make my Schenk dyno opperational and verify or demolish my hopes, Pat
     
  26. V4F
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    from middle ca.

    if the new head doesnt work for you , i have a home for it ! ................. steve

    damn that would freak peeps out if it were on my coupe !
     
  27. Thank you!
     
  28. RussTee
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    I am not sure either Pat but we better point out that they usually post Banger helpful hints at the start anyone new please read the helpful hints at the start of last months thread.
    Hey Pat be a devil and post a picture of your front plate alongside that head just so the banger fans can see the 'New Traditional' that I am talking about.
     
  29. BHT8BALL
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    I'll go back and read the instructions tomorrow, maybe I can copy & paste them in. Anyway here's a mockup for a Bonneville engine with Hilborn pump & Scintilla mag. There are 3 positions available to clock the pump, I didn't show the damper because there was a burr on the crank keeping the hub from going on. I'm including a picture of Lee Hammock's track roadster to show the damper. Pat [my pictures were rejected 3 times so i'll try a different approach]
     

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