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Technical ***September 2021 Banger Meet Thread - Happy Equinox***

Discussion in 'Traditional Hot Rods' started by Jiminy, Sep 1, 2021.

  1. Jiminy
    Joined: Oct 25, 2012
    Posts: 476


    Link to previous month: August 2021

    Old Dawg informs us there is an effort to resurrect a F.A.S.T. newsletter but it would require 400 subscribers (minimum number to attract vendors). Subscription price is unknown at this point (2021/9/1) but if you are interested send an email to [email protected].

    Coming Events: (PM Jiminy with additions/corrections)
    18th Annual North Central Iowa Four Banger Speed Meet, September 11, 2021
    Hot Rod Hill Climb Sept 17th - 18th, 2021
    49th Running of the Antique Nationals October 17th 2021-Irwindale Speedway

    Stay safe.

    For the HAMB banger newbies, here are some links to a lot of banger info:

    Jim Brierley's book 4-bangers! And me! is a must read book for all banger enthusiasts. US customers send $34.00 all color except for the oldest pictures (includes S/H in the U.S.A.), PayPal welcome, to:
    Jim Brierley, 39480 Colleen Way, Temecula, CA 92592.
    email: [email protected]
    phone: 951-695-7313.

    Here is a list of most of the prior monthly banger meet links:

    Banger basics. another info link list:

    The link below shows flywheel lightening dimensions
    and this link shows the missing image from the above post

    The 4 Banger hot rod picture thread.

    Model B rod bearing insert numbers

    Engine tuning with a Vacuum gauge

    Adjusting dual Strombergs:

    Helpful Model A tools and tips:

    Gary in MN's late model Malory distributor conversion for A/B engine:

    Elrod's stuck head tech:

    Model A generator to alternator conversion:

    Gear ratio / speed and RPM calculator:

    Model A master cylinder mounting bracket ideas:

    Go here to read the 1931 edition of Harry Ricardo's book "The High Speed Internal Combustion Engine"

    Chevy Banger Stuff

    Post 198 starts a great discussion of the shape of a flat head combustion chamber

    T-5 5 speed in a Torque Tube:

    New Banger Block in the Works

    Model A & B Style Cast Iron Cylinder Head Compression Ratios.
  2. Checking in from soggy Pa.
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  3. Jet96
    Joined: Dec 24, 2012
    Posts: 1,431

    from WY

    Checking in-saw this little guy at our show this weekend. E08CFD1A-147F-4FAF-B7CA-BFEB54F63177.jpeg 99268B59-8E14-43CC-AB39-EE3BEDAFD4FF.jpeg the engine was barely longer than the generator!
  4. denis4x4
    Joined: Apr 23, 2005
    Posts: 4,202

    from Colorado


    Took the '29 CCPU to the Speedster Reunion and it crapped out on the first tour day. Got it home and started working on it and made some changes here and there. The wiring was marginal going in and I cut through the loom with a die grinder when I removed the throttle/advance rods. I put it in the storage garage today with boxes full of parts and it may be a future barn find! At 80 with a couple European sports cars and the Zipper roadster, I see no need to rebuild the CCPU at this time.
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  5. Just waiting on my intake manifold and valve cover from Burns, then this banger will run!
  6. noboD
    Joined: Jan 29, 2004
    Posts: 8,480


    30 days has September.
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  7. Dustyp489
    Joined: Feb 1, 2008
    Posts: 223


    Checking in, Carlisle is the end of the month
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  8. yep, czek'd in
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  9. Stovebolt
    Joined: May 2, 2001
    Posts: 3,535


    I didn't take any pictures of the day, but it is the second day of spring here day, so I took the coupe out in order to take the dog to the vet's to get some teeth extracted - it was his first time in the car - he seemed to like it.
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  10. winduptoy
    Joined: Feb 19, 2013
    Posts: 3,394


    Not much to say,
    Had the T out and one cylinder decided to not play well and another followed it. It was the timer and a coil after a trailer ride back home.
    Installed a new 'I-Timer' and a different rebuilt coil. The bugs no longer crash into the back side of the windshield.
    Last edited: Sep 2, 2021
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  11. railcarmover
    Joined: Apr 30, 2017
    Posts: 777


    Gonna go say hi to the boys in the model a club friday,see how many i can piss off..Auburn hill climb the middle of the month,if the woods aint on fire
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  12. brjnelson
    Joined: Oct 13, 2002
    Posts: 605


    Saturday Sept 11 Iowa hillclimb
    The PDF attached has all you need to know.

    Attached Files:

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  13. Binger
    Joined: Apr 28, 2008
    Posts: 1,734

    from wyoming

    Checking in from Cheyoming!
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  14. V4F
    Joined: Aug 8, 2008
    Posts: 4,382

    from middle ca.

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  15. Phil Damon
    Joined: May 8, 2020
    Posts: 60

    Phil Damon
    from San Diego

    Checking in from San Diego.
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  16. Airborne34
    Joined: Dec 4, 2007
    Posts: 634

    from Texas

    582E4AB9-155C-4E39-93AC-3E87C84BFD3F.jpeg C45251C7-7A4C-4825-A2E3-6ECF4CF00F8E.jpeg I picked up a few parts from a Banger Estate. He was into Hopped up B motors in the 70’s -80’s

    I have some GM Rods that were apparently used in some of the early inserted Bearing motors. They are marked 499637 GM (Diamond Symbol) 17. Far as I can tell they were from late 30’s 6 Cylinder. I would consider them cores at best.

    If they were used back then, I’m sure there are much better options now a days.

    think there’s any value in them or should I scrap.
  17. studebakerjoe
    Joined: Jul 7, 2015
    Posts: 1,136


    @Airborne34 if you decide to get rid of them I'd be interested in them.
  18. 25mercury
    Joined: Aug 14, 2010
    Posts: 103

    from California

    499637, they are Pontiac 6.
  19. Be careful, these may be a 1/16" longer center distance
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  20. After shock testing with the Coupe to Pendine and back including some salt bath and wet sand blasting on the beach I transferred them to the Tourer for a trip to GOW at Prescott hillclimb last weekend. Working really well. Shim valves inside and pressure filled with oil. Should be available soon from RKE Engineering in the UK.



    (Photo courtesy of Reverendpixel)

    (Photo courtesy of John Hallett)

  21. railcarmover
    Joined: Apr 30, 2017
    Posts: 777



    Just another Friday night, got tossed out of the A club meeting for talking during the gospel and general douchebaggery ...some nerve, all I asked is if anyone wants to race for idea of a car club is a bunch of dudes talking shit, drinking beer and lying about something.. these dudes wear matching polo shirts and act like they are in church.. the treasurer said they had 41 k in the bank..They didnt like it when I yelled "kick some down, Ill get the keg and start the barbecue"...
  22. winduptoy
    Joined: Feb 19, 2013
    Posts: 3,394


    I gave up on the local Model A club years ago. They would collect dues and interest on the money in the treasury.
    Suggest that funds should be spent to the benefit of the club members...there was great pride in the funds hoarded in the coffers and it was intended it remain that way!
    Organized as a 'not for profit' Corporation, they were audited and informed that if they didn't spend some money, they would be viewed differently, status revoked and taxed.
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  23. railcarmover
    Joined: Apr 30, 2017
    Posts: 777


    That club has actually had their funds embezzled a few time..looks like it's getting ripe for the pickens again..
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  24. Stovebolt
    Joined: May 2, 2001
    Posts: 3,535


    @hotrodfil is RKE the ones that makke the flywheel for a banger?
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  25. V4F
    Joined: Aug 8, 2008
    Posts: 4,382

    from middle ca.

    HAPPY FATHERS DAY to our friends down under . aussie's have a great day .............. steve
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  26. BlacktopScraper
    Joined: Sep 10, 2005
    Posts: 148


    IMG_4239.jpg Just wanted to join in this group and check in. This is my '30 Roadster in the foreground and my first banger powered car.
  27. BlacktopScraper
    Joined: Sep 10, 2005
    Posts: 148


    Hey Retson...
    Just curious, who made your header and are you using a Burns single or dual?
  28. Ran last month at the 2021 Rolex Monterey Motorsports Reunion. Did what it took near 60 years (on and off) going thru the "Corkscrew"! I spun! I caught it though; and didn't hit the wall! Thanks to being a life long skier; as the rear went around to the right heading the car to the inside wall; I briefly hit the brakes! I then cranked the wheel to the right and rolled on power! The car whipped around 180 degrees. That set the downhill wheels like those of ski' edges) ; and I slid down to a stop a couple of feet from the downhill wall. According to the photog, Adam Hosey who took the below photo below; the crowd went wild!
    Last edited: Sep 5, 2021
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  29. Nope - it's an engineering company in Norfolk in the UK that is handily just across the way from work.
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  30. hardtimesainit
    Joined: Jan 24, 2009
    Posts: 625


    Hey Dog,
    Thanks for sharing.
    This picture is worthy of framing… very nice !!

    Yup, was always told…turn into the drift ! Guess it still works ,eh !
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