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Technical ***September 2018 Banger Meet - 4 Cylinder Equinox***

Discussion in 'Traditional Hot Rods' started by Jiminy, Aug 31, 2018.

  1. Jiminy
    Joined: Oct 25, 2012
    Posts: 404


    Coming Events: (PM Jiminy with additions/corrections)

    September 9th, El Mirage

    September 14-16, Hot Rod Hill Climb
    Central City, Colorado

    The event is held at the Arkansas Aeroplex (The Blytheville-Gosnell Regional Airport) at 4701 Memorial Drive in Blytheville, Arkansas.

    October 2nd -5th, SCTA/BNI Bonneville Race World Finals

    October 21st, El Mirage

    November 10th - 11th, El Mirage

    For the HAMB banger newbies, here are some links to a lot of banger info:

    Jim Brierley's book 4-bangers! And me! is a must read book for all banger enthusiasts. US customers send $31.00 for color, $24.00 for B/W (includes S/H in the U.S.A.), PayPal welcome, to:
    Jim Brierley, 39480 Colleen Way, Temecula, CA 92592.
    phone: 951-695-7313.

    Here is a list of most of the prior monthly banger meet links:

    Banger basics. another info link list:

    The link below shows flywheel lightening dimensions
    and this link shows the missing image from the above post

    The 4 Banger hot rod picture thread.

    Model B rod bearing insert numbers

    Engine tuning with a Vacuum gauge

    Adjusting dual Strombergs:

    Helpful Model A tools and tips:

    Gary in MN's late model Malory distributor conversion for A/B engine:

    Elrod's stuck head tech:

    Model A generator to alternator conversion:

    Gear ratio / speed and RPM calculator:

    Model A master cylinder mounting bracket ideas:

    Go here to read the 1931 edition of Harry Ricardo's book "The High Speed Internal Combustion Engine"

    Chevy Banger Stuff

    Post 198 starts a great discussion of the shape of a flat head combustion chamber

    T-5 5 speed in a Torque Tube:

    New Banger Block in the Works
  2. denis4x4
    Joined: Apr 23, 2005
    Posts: 3,786

    from Colorado

    Waiting for my original ‘39-‘42 Ford logo brake shoes to be relined as the aftermarket stuff is WRONG!,,,
  3. RussTee
    Joined: Mar 25, 2008
    Posts: 1,223


    Here also thanks.

  4. ROCKER77
    Joined: Jun 30, 2008
    Posts: 507


    Checking in from the "armpit" of the south....
  5. Binger
    Joined: Apr 28, 2008
    Posts: 1,732

    from wyoming

    Checking in too! I have a little more than 300 miles on the new motor. It is running awesome. I am happy with the performance I am getting out of it. Thanks Bert’s. Hot Rod Hill Climb is just a few days away! I will see some of you up there.

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  6. noboD
    Joined: Jan 29, 2004
    Posts: 7,781


    John, we need pictures at the hillclimb.
  7. V4F
    Joined: Aug 8, 2008
    Posts: 4,210

    from middle ca.

    pix would be nice
  8. I'm looking forward to the "Hill Climb", we'll be heading that way as well! Unfortunately not as a participant, spectator only!
  9. Binger
    Joined: Apr 28, 2008
    Posts: 1,732

    from wyoming

    I will post pics as I get them! We are leaving Thursday the 13th in the morning and driving down there. I am excited to be driving my banger there. I will chronicle the journey. Anybody coming through Cheyenne who wants to drive along? There are a couple of guys in town who are planning on driving with us.

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  10. Been busy with work and planning for future but here are a couple pics from BVille this year.

    Busted a ring in the coupe on first pass, maybe gone a little too far.

  11. from the push truck heading off on 174+ run.

    Quite the Motley crew, none of this would be possible without them.
    Many Thanks to ALL, John

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  12. Following along from 10-UH-C. Hopefully will live to be 110 so I can work on mine.
  13. Check'n in! Turned in some good lap times at Laguna Seca the week before last; putting me in the second row on the Pole (3rd place). Thought I might be able to get by the "Pole Setter" as I had put that particular car "away" at Buttonwillow Raceway last May. However, on the fifth turn of the first lap, the engine began to crackle and occasionally backfire. I was passed by one car immediately; but held off others. Half way through the race, I got myself "sandwiched" between a couple of wandering "Back Markers". Without sufficient power, two more cars got by me. I finished sixth out of 32 finishers (I think forty had started). I and seven others had completed the full ten lap race.
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    The culprit was a crack in the intake manifold (that I DIDN'T see) that had propagated to the point where number two carburetor and flange were barely hanging on! But we had fun!
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  14. callcoy
    Joined: Aug 31, 2008
    Posts: 149


    Hard Day ?
    Not really, Friday found me in the city (SF) at Greg Martinez shop with him showing me his new tool, a line boring machine, an exceptionally well designed marriage of an old Kwik Way line boring machine with a (?) brand cylinder boring tool mounted horizontally. It is long but it is slick, came with at least 75 lbs. of tooling.

    We went thru the shop to select a block, pistons , rods and etc. to duplicate the record engine retired due to deck cracks. Had lunch and found everything we needed so I was able to hang the rods, boy those cur-clips are a bi#ch, cleanup to go to dinner.

    Greg dropped me off on the Embarcadero near the ball park had dinner with Pat Coyle Nor-Cal banger hill climber and our Cam Grinder. Walked over to the ball park to catch the Giants over power the Mets, not your average day around here, but beats doing yard work.
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  15. TBone69
    Joined: Aug 21, 2007
    Posts: 821

    from NJ

    Hey folks putting my first Banger together, do the head studs need sealer? Thanks

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  16. It depends, I do not use sealer or silicone, I use some anti-seize to prevent damage.
    This will depend on the block, chances are if the holes have not been inserted or damaged the well on the bottom of the stud is sealed. If it has been "repaired" it may go into the water jacket, then sealant is necessary.
    YMMV, J
  17. The37Kid
    Joined: Apr 30, 2004
    Posts: 28,426


    Old Dawg, We saw your car in the pits again, some year we will meet. Thought I heard you slide and get sideways out of one turn. Bob DSCF0519.JPG
  18. Checking in - just got back to work after another spectacular Rømø Motor Festival... need to get the other G28T running, so car (or chassis, at least) has run this year!
  19. The37Kid
    Joined: Apr 30, 2004
    Posts: 28,426


    DSCF1140.JPG Got to get Dad's Roadster engine unstuck and running, another project on hold. Bob
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  20. V4F
    Joined: Aug 8, 2008
    Posts: 4,210

    from middle ca.

    looks like it could be a nice looking motor
  21. winduptoy
    Joined: Feb 19, 2013
    Posts: 2,567


    Getting ready for the hill climb too...
    See you there John looking forward to it....
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  22. winduptoy
    Joined: Feb 19, 2013
    Posts: 2,567


    I'll toss a lot out there for you

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  23. Yeah Bob! Sorry I missed you! I believe though that's me to the right of the photo, facing my wife (the tall lady in the turquoise top. I'm wearing a Fedora; and we're talking to Pam Shatraw, formerly with "Victory Lane" magazine and now Marketing Director for the Sportscar Vintage Racing Association (SVRA). Yes, you DID see me get sideways on Turn TWO (Turn One is a kink just after the track goes past the Start/Finish, under the Overpass). I "over-cooked" it trying to keep momentum due to the loss of torque because of the aforementioned manifold breakage. Note the light gray in the exhaust due to the lean mixture. On the "tear-down" there seems to be no damage. We've already repaired the intake manifold.
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  24. studebakerjoe
    Joined: Jul 7, 2015
    Posts: 811


    Old Dawg, saw a pic of your car in Automobile magazine article about Monterey. I think page 76 if I'm not mistaken.
  25. studebakerjoe
    Joined: Jul 7, 2015
    Posts: 811


    Oops forgot to say its the September/October issue
  26. The37Kid
    Joined: Apr 30, 2004
    Posts: 28,426


    That girl in the sun glasses is my daughter who treated me to the trip. Same girl in 1982 in my Riley 4Port. Working on my '39 pickup today so the trip was motivational. ;)Bob
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  27. Thanks, I'll check it out!
  28. I was going to say! I DO remember her. And, you MAY have had a nod from me, as I remember someone (YOU) with her! Dang me! Ain't life funny?

    Our youngest daughter (having just moved from Wash. D.C. to Pasadena CA) was with us. She's gotten bitten by the"racing bug"! So "Old Dad" here is going to take her to The Univ. of VARA in February (where I'm a volunteer instructor) to see if she's really serious about it......Just keep "wrench'n", Bob....I think that's what might be keep'n us old guys young!
  29. Here's a video of what Bob and his daughter saw at Monterey, Other than mine, there were three other Ford "Bangers" in the race. There were a number of other old "Bangers" too!

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