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Sept 2010 Banger Meet

Discussion in 'The Hokey Ass Message Board' started by Crazydaddyo, Sep 1, 2010.

  1. Crazydaddyo
    Joined: Apr 6, 2008
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    I'm surprised this month hasn't started yet


    Here is the banger link list .



    For the HAMB banger newbies, here are some links to a lot of banger info:

    Flat Ernie maintains the monthly link list. Every month is listed:

    http://www.jalopyjournal.com/forum/s...d.php?t=161498



    Banger basics. another info link list:

    http://www.plucks329s.org/index.htm

    http://www.jalopyjournal.com/forum/s...d.php?t=251717

    http://www.jalopyjournal.com/forum/s...ad.php?t=42480

    Post #105 of link below shows flywheel lightening dimensions
    http://www.jalopyjournal.com/forum/showthread.php?t=470853&page=6


    Elrod's stuck head tech:

    http://www.jalopyjournal.com/forum/showthread.php?t=218487

    Model A generator to alternator conversion:

    http://ejwhitneyco.com/automotive.html

    Gear ratio / speed and RPM calculator:

    http://www.accuautoparts.com/calculatorfin.jsp


    Model A master cylinder mounting bracket ideas:

    http://www.jalopyjournal.com/forum/s...73#post4953173


    Chevy Banger Stuff

    http://www.jalopyjournal.com/forum/s...d.php?t=463465

    Go here to read the 1931 edition of Harry Ricardo's book "The High Speed Internal Combustion Engine"

    http://www.scribd.com/doc/22469332/The-High-Speed-Internal-Combustion-Engine-Ricardo-1931

    Post 198 starts a great discussion of the shape of a flat head combustion chamber

    http://www.jalopyjournal.com/forum/showthread.php?t=470853&page=10

    Maybe these links should be posted early in each months meeting.

    If anyone knows of more, please post them.
     
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  2. -Brent-
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    I'm putting a large logo 97 on my stock banger (with exception of the intake and B disty) and was wondering what advice you could give on the set-up. The carb needs to be rebuilt, so if there is anything special I should know I'd love the heads-up.

    Thanks.
     
  3. Bigcheese327
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    The Whippet shell looks great on the front of a T or early Chevy, and given the provenance as a speed part, I'm surprised one of the sheetmetal suppliers isn't providing one. Seems like Rootlieb or somebody could sell at least as many as they do speedster bodies.

    -Dave
     
  4. Bluto
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    Thank you Craz......
     
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  5. jerseyboy
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    I'll second that...thank you crazydaddyo. Those sure come in handy for a banger newbie!
     
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  6. 97
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  7. Gaters
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    Checking in, bumping and subscribing for September.
     
  8. 21stud
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    from California

    I would check your intake /gaskets to make sure the ports match.
     
  9. wayneat
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    You have a very knowledgeable 4 banger person right in your area. I would suggest you contact Hugh Coltharp in Salt Lake City. He is a former Bonneville 4 banger record holder. He also participates in the Antique Nationals most every year. He is a very friendly and helpful person. He is a wonderful source of information, and has a very interesting collection of cars and parts. His shop is on about 17th South between State and Main. If you can't locate him p.m. me and I will give you his contact information.
     
  10. BCCHOPIT
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    Is the port size different?
     
  11. Dave in Denver
    Joined: Apr 12, 2009
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    from Denver, CO

    I was replacing the radiator hose on my '30 Turdor that has a water temperature gauge with a probe that goes in the metal tube insert in the upper radiator hose. The metal probe became rusted to the fitting and in working with it the tube attached to it broke off and some mystery fluid sprayed out of the tube. :eek:

    My question: Can this probe and tube be replaced and the temperature gauge repaired? (If it can be repaired, where might I find the pieces parts?)

    or

    Do I have a neat looking Model A Ford temperature gauge paper weight?:confused:

    Thanks,

    Dave
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  12. 97
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    You can repair it yourself, it is normally alcohol in the tube.
    http://www.ply33.com/repair/tempgauge
     
  13. -Brent-
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    Thank you!
     
  14. youngrodder1929
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    from Vancouver

    i finally have somthing for the banger meet:D
     

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  15. Dave in Denver
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    97,

    Thank you for the link. This is exactly what I was looking for. I know have more than new paper weight.

    Dave
     
  16. -Brent-
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    Nice! What are your plans?
     
  17. OOOH! Blue pipes, exhaust must run a tad hot, maybe lean at one time?
     
  18. ebtm3
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    Back in the days when I drove an A as everyday driver, I would the the manifold heater off in warm weather, leaving a 3" hole in the firewall. Great fun to take someone not familiar with A's for a night ride--sooner or later they would notice the manifold and down pipe glowing red at sustained speed. If they mentioned it my usual retort was "Oh c##p, the last time it did that the whole thing caught fire". Always figured that the low compression was to blame, as once we found out about higher compression heads the problem was much less common.

    Herb Kephart
     
  19. youngrodder1929
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    from Vancouver

    head , cam maybe v8 trany lightned flywheel with drive it lots im tired of seein it on jackstands lol:rolleyes:
     
  20. youngrodder1929
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    from Vancouver

    the carbs were way out of balce before and the linkage was holding the front one open a little w got her fixed up now tho
     
  21. Stovebolt
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    YR1929, I think you've got the perfect banger coupe!!!

    Bitchin' :)
     
  22. Artiki
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    Youngrodder, that's cool. Enjoy!
     
  23. I once bought a triumph 1951 650 and was the first to get on it (First to go fast for some of you). I noticed after only a couple of miles the rechromed pipes were turning blue so I pulled the carb and it was jetted lean a couple of sizes so I put in the jets the book called for and the pipes stopped turning blue. A friend had a stock "T" and the exhaust manifold would glow a dull orange, never got red though.
     
  24. windy
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    I All my name is Allan Lobley & I live in Queensland Australia .
    I have a few questions about a engine that I want to rebuild .
    1. can any one tell me the advantages / disadvantages of a early 5 bearing cam block , as the block I have has good main bearings still with the shims & correct clearance but will have to be bored for new pistons as the bores are tapered.
    2. has any one had any dealings with www. Old Timer Babbitt.com , as I would like to get a set of there rebabbited rods for this engine , the cost of these to me with shiping is going to be less the sending mine to the US on a exchange bases .
    Thanks Allan.
     
  25. BCCHOPIT
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    Sweet little ride....
     
  26. worn shoes
    Joined: Mar 16, 2007
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    Hello this is my fist banger post and I thought that I would share my little motor with you guys :) This little thing has been in the works for the last few months and is almost ready to be reunited with my project. I took the advice that I had read on making a good banger and set out on my mission. Thanks for all the great post.
     

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  27. Crazydaddyo
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    I don't know of any disadvantages, some might say that the block casting is weaker around the rear main. I don't see that as a major drawback.

    The main advantage of the 5 cam bearings is that you can run more spring pressure and more lift without the worry of cam deflection. So if you wanted to run and overhead with a lot of lift and rocker ratio, that is the better block to use.

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  28. Crazydaddyo
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    The T-5 conversion kit is close to being available. I went to Steve Serr's house today to help out with a photo shout for a magazine tech article.

    here are some pictures of the set up:

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  29. Crazydaddyo
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    I hope all of our Kiwi and Aussie banger mates are OK !!!!!!!


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