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SBC Headers....ID....brand and era

Discussion in 'The Hokey Ass Message Board' started by Royalshifter, Dec 22, 2008.

  1. Royalshifter
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    Picked these up today and they are cool unusual with old chrome.....anyone have an idea who made them and about what year. Thanks Skip.

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  2. Royalshifter
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  4. Tony
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    Wish i could answer your question, but i don't know...
    I just had to post because those thing's are BADASS!
    I want 'em :D

    Good luck in finding the maker...i'd like to know now too.
     

  5. Royalshifter
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    They are very quality fabricated.
     
  6. VOETOM
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    Very early to mid-60's I bet. I think I saw them in my old 1962-1964 catalog, (not JC Whitney but one of the other speed catalogs you used to buy from). Ryan will know.
     
  7. HotRodFreak
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    Could be Hedmans from the 60's.
    What is diameter of primaries and collectors?
     
  8. Royalshifter
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    1 1/2" x 3"

     
  9. InjectorTim
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    They look like Hedmans, but not like any particular Hedmans I have ever seen.
     
  10. Royalshifter
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    I just looked through my 1964 Almquist catalogs at their Hedman ad and no dice.
     
  11. HotRodFreak
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    I'm thinking the flange was for quick take-a-part for something with small cubes, due to small tubes. Maybe for sprint or?
     
  12. Royalshifter
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    I found them on a shelf in the storage room at a pump co.
     
  13. 1959cac
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    Drag Boat? Marine? My first thought...some application where it is easier to split the header / unable to access collector bolts?
     
  14. 1929rats
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    Im pretty sure those are headman headers for a C1 Corvette (1956-62). I want to say Ive seen a thread on those before in the C1 section on the corvette forum (a forum kind of like the hamb for corvette guys).

    The C1 headers hang low and go straight down (Ive got a set on my 283 /301 block down cellar). I believe that mid section part (with the mid-flange) was for easier installation.

    Not positive, but 88% positive....
     
  15. Tony
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    I think i got it!
    After staring at these for a little while, i remembered seeing them before,in a book..
    I started digging and sure enough........

    Here's what i found.

    They are exactly the same design as these Hedman headers that were installed on ProjectX back in '65..
    I'm sure the lower portion's could be different per application as the one's used on ProjX were different than yours, but the top section is identical right down to the bolt placement.
    This photo (sorry for the poor quality, it's from my phone) is right from the book, and although it isn't very clear i can see the bolt and tube placement in the mid plate....they are the same..
    I have the first two issues Popular Hot Rodding put out strickly dedicated to ProjectX back in'65.
    These were one of the first performance upgrades they did to it..

    So i'd agree with the other's after reading and seeing the pics...They ARE Hedmans..

    Very cool items...........
    I still want 'em :D
    You lemme know if you wanna sell em....pleeeeaze :)

    Tony
     

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  16. metalshapes
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    I think Jerry has a set of those as well...
     
  17. Royalshifter
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    Wow....you guys are hot tonight!!!
     
  18. Del Clark
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    They definately have an old Headman shape...even bolt together like a Headman.
     
  19. Dat Dirty Rat
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    I got 'sniped' on e-bay a few days back on set that were missing the bottoms and there was some listed for a 409 last month...Major score holmes!!
     
  20. jerry
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    Thank you Alex. They do look very similar, but mine are not chromed.


    jerry
     
  21. tommy
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    They sure look like the second generation Hedman's. They made Hedman's before the 3 bolt collector flange became the standard of the industry as seen here. Hedman is the only header that I can recall that made them in two pieces with the flange in the middle. This is a 63 catalog. The early lower sections had square block off plates with elbows out the side of the collector for the muffler hook up. Yours with the 3 bolt collector makes me think that they are middle 60s before they followed the rest of the industry with the one piece design. There was a lot of bitching about the gasket leaks in the middle after they aged a few years. I love them because they are immediately recognized as being old.
     
  22. AA/Fuel34fordpu
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    Those would look good on my Austin. How bout a Christmas present there Mr. Royal Shifter PLEASE........ :(
     
  23. pan-dragger
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    good buy, those are pretty cool.
     
  24. metalshapes
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    Yeah, I thought they looked similar.

    But I wasn't sure...
     
  25. alchemy
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    Doesn't the McMullen Roadster (first one) have something similar? But the bottom half runs outward, rather than back? Maybe there's a blockoff plate to remove for direct exhaust.
     
  26. Royalshifter
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    Thanks Tommy.
     
  27. Royalshifter
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    Ummmm..........No!!;)
     
  28. pm bass, he's got a set of those on his new roadster he's building....he'll know
     
  29. Hot Rodz R Us
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    Seen them in an old J.C Shitney catalog once, I also think Hedman
     
  30. InjectorTim
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    Doesn't the generator mount on the passenger side header also suggest corvette?
     

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