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Discussion in 'The Hokey Ass Message Board' started by 58Darlene, Oct 20, 2011.

  1. 58Darlene
    Joined: Mar 29, 2009
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    Maybe a dumb question, but... We pulled my buddy's Model A apart and there seemed to be safety wire on every bolt. Is this typical, and does it need replaced? Any help is appreciated!
     
  2. squirrel
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    is it an old hot rod? or a stock original? or what? and what all parts had safety wire, just the chassis stuff or the engine or the body or all of it?
     
  3. originals used lots of cotter pins, and safety wire on the flywheel bolts
     
  4. propwash
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    from Las Vegas

    sure they aren't just really strong cobwebs?
     

  5. 58Darlene
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    the engine is a stock model A. No frills. And if I'm not mistaken everything had wire. head bolts, the bearing caps had wire, the flywheel had wire. It seemed a little overkill, but it's the first I've ever pulled apart.
     
  6. chrisntx
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    from Texas .

    The Model A engine vibrated quite a bit and the Ford engineers used safety wire in the rear axle, and engine. I always re-wire to air Force specs, dont just loop it thru like the untrained mechanic before you.
     
  7. 58Darlene
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    Propwash, it could be, hahaha, it sat for almost 25 years before it rolled to a new garage.
     
  8. chrisntx
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    from Texas .

    Never seen any on the head, the rod bearings use cotter pins
     
  9. if i remember right the motor mount bolts should be wired also.
     
  10. F&J
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    I just got in a 2dr sedan A to get running for the owner. Last plates are 1955. Anyways, it has those door window anti-rattlers made by aftermarket places way back in time.

    My first ride in an A sedan decades ago, it sounded like all the glass was going to shatter at a certain RPM before shifting.
     
  11. Checkerwagon
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    " Is this typical, and does it need replaced? " It does sound like overkill to an extent. I've not seen head bolts wired but when it putting it all back together, ask yourself if it will be a bad idea to safety wire a component. Like Chrisntx said, think of aircraft specifications. Use your head. Aircraft shall not hiccup or stumble, therefor, when in doubt, wire it. I probably safety wire more than the average trash yet I do not worry about the nuts or bolts that I have touched. I've got more interesting things to worry about.
    Dale
    Cleveland OH
     
  12. oldcarfart
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    many of us military background geeks safety wire anything we can!
     
  13. Grumbler
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    Is it stainless lockwire? If so then an old aircraft mechanic for sure[​IMG]
     
  14. bolt_boy_49
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    from USA

    I come from a long line of over builders. I safety wire everything I build.
    Here is a PDF that has lots of good safety wire info.
    Al
     

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