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Discussion in 'Traditional Hot Rods' started by 36 Penny Coupe, Nov 9, 2019.

  1. 36 Penny Coupe
    Joined: Jan 7, 2014
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    36 Penny Coupe
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    from VA

    Today I bought a Borg Warner T5 manual transmission for a one day swap into my 36 Ford Coupe with an 8BA Flathead. The tag on the case says 1352-042.
    I found it on Craigslist about 100 miles away for $260.00. I bought it the same day as is. The numbers tell me it is from a 1984-85 S10 with a 2.8 V6 and a 5 speed. It has a mechanical speedometer. Here is my question. I think it was a great buy but do they have any common problems?? It shifts great and feels tight. I’m not sure I will rebuild it. Anyone been down this road??


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  2. 36 Penny Coupe
    Joined: Jan 7, 2014
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    36 Penny Coupe
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    from VA

  3. That would be a non world class tranny
    It’s good
    Had one behind my 261

    input bearings get noisy
     
  4. 52HardTop
    Joined: Jun 21, 2007
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    52HardTop
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    I have one behind my 235. It is good too. It makes driving my 52 fun.
     

  5. Stick a tail shaft seal in it while it's on the bench...
    Then stick it in and and run it.
    I installed mine in a couple hours...
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  6. Chevy had a bulletin out on the noisy input shaft bearing or gear . I remember it fixed the customers complaint . Can't remember what it was , maybe a spring loaded spacer that went in front of the input gear to keep a constant pressure on the gear .
     
  7. 1st gear is pretty low.I start in 2nd with ease.They make shifters that give them a smaller shift pattern.I made my shifter lever from a shot out Enfield rifle barrel.Its marked 1917.It has a nice taper.I put the shift knob on a 6 inch piece of all thread,and pushed it in the bore. Looks like a 1930 shifter. While its out cut the "fin" off the bottom of the case for clearance.
     
  8. alchemy
    Joined: Sep 27, 2002
    Posts: 20,505

    alchemy
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    Open it up and see if the plastic tips are still good on the shift forks.
     
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  10. southcross2631
    Joined: Jan 20, 2013
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    southcross2631
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    Had to cut the fin off the bottom to clear in a 39 Ford swap behind a Flathead. Worked great.
     
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  11. Steve Lowe
    Joined: Nov 8, 2019
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    Steve Lowe
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    Put one in my 39 Plymouth pickup behind the original flathead. Shifts like a dream! DSCN2015.JPG
     
  12. 2935ford
    Joined: Jan 6, 2006
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    2935ford
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    I did just that. Bought a S10 T5 for my '35 slantback. I received it and installed it as is. The only issue I had was it popped out of second gear.
     
  13. X-cpe
    Joined: Mar 9, 2018
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    X-cpe

    I like the E-brake bracket.
     
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  14. arthurC3
    Joined: May 20, 2005
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    I have a 1938 Dodge coupe. What bellhousing and clutch disc did you use for your 5 speed conversion?

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  15. Steve Lowe
    Joined: Nov 8, 2019
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    It mounts to the original bell housing after drilling and tapping. Still using an original pressure plate assembly, but I opted for a custom clutch disc only because I wanted to keep the original clutch diameter. I hear many have used smaller off the shelf clutch discs without issue. There is a lot of info at P15D24 website about T5 installs in early Mopar cars.
     
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  16. nochop
    Joined: Nov 13, 2005
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    nochop
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    from norcal

    I’d like to see that
     
  17. Ron Plumlee
    Joined: Feb 12, 2012
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    Ron Plumlee
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    Yep, but remember to use Dexron II for lube....that is what I am told and what I use, and what the book says. I paid $240 years ago on a gamble, paid $80 to have the guy tell me it was like new. The seller said it jumped out of gear, and after he got another one, same thing, the cause was shifter hitting the firewall during some engine movement, either under accel or decell, I can't recall. My good luck!
     
  18. That's the best one to use. Mechanical speedos are hard to find anymore.
    You will need an adapter plate and truck hog's head to bolt it all up.
    Check the input shaft bearing for excess play. Now is the time to change it.
    I love mine. Works great.
     
  19. So-cal Tex
    Joined: Aug 24, 2005
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    So-cal Tex
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    Don't forget to trim 1/4 inch off the input shaft where it goes into the pilot bearing as its too long, it will mess up your thrust on a Flathead, learned that the hard way in '32 Coupe.
     
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  20. So-cal Tex
    Joined: Aug 24, 2005
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    So-cal Tex
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    I sacrificed a swan neck shifter and pinned/welded it to the S-10 base so it look stock and used stock sift knob.
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  21. the flatlander
    Joined: Apr 29, 2004
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    the flatlander
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    I had a WC S10 trans behind my 5" chopped 3 w (sold). I ran it with a Winters QC at Maxton & ran 120 w/ no problems. All that with a 9.5" disc ...just don't speed shift it. :)
     
  22. thirtytwo
    Joined: Dec 19, 2003
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    thirtytwo
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    I have a late s-10 the owners manual says synchromesh , not sure differences on transmissions , I know the earlier ones did use atf
     
  23. Mr48chev
    Joined: Dec 28, 2007
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    Mr48chev
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    I've got a twin to yours for my 31 A with flathead. Dwight Bond adapter that I bought the extra pieces he suggested and what was probably the last Astro Van clutch disk that Rock Auto had in stock.
    They work fine if you don't run massive horse power or beat the crap out of them.
     

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