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Hot Rods Runnin rich!

Discussion in 'The Hokey Ass Message Board' started by Boden, Jun 17, 2020.

  1. Truck64
    Joined: Oct 18, 2015
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    Truck64
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    from Ioway

    The pipes might look black, but the plugs shouldn't.

    Wide band O2 gauge isn't Traditional but they are excellent.
     
  2. F-ONE
    Joined: Mar 27, 2008
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    F-ONE
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    from Alabama

    The flathead in my new '51 was running a little rich.:confused:
    [​IMG]Untitled by Travis Brown, on Flickr
    [​IMG]Untitled by Travis Brown, on Flickr
    :rolleyes:
    Alas, but the 94 was not too swooft as well.
    [​IMG]Untitled by Travis Brown, on Flickr

    Remember the '70s TV show Eight is Enough?
    I guesss for some 8 94s on a flathead is "enough.:eek:

    Right now.....
    One is enough for me.;)

    I'll add this....
    when you make a change.....

    Give it some time.

    After I did all the tune up stuff....cap, points, wires, connections, grounds and a overhauled 94, each step was a vast improvement.
    It still had a stumble though. After 3 days.....the stumble has diminished and is now gone. It's like it had to wake up and run it out.
    When you do a change.....run it for a while and give it some time.

    I did have one big surprise....:rolleyes:
    After replacing the wires, plugs, cap, button and points, I was expecting it to run like a million bucks. I turned the key and it ran like hammered poo-poo.
    I thought, Lord, what have I done?
    Come to find out, I set the points for 226 flat 6 specs rather than the V8 spec.
    I mis-read the tune up chart.

    I mention that only to go back and check simple stuff. There may be a little simple mistake you made and missed.
     
  3. 19Eddy30
    Joined: Mar 27, 2011
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    from VA

    Maybe Cali gas formula off the pump is different than here on the east ,I pull plugs weekly out of naturally aspirated engine
    ""Non-Ethanol Free"" Pump Gas ,
    They all-ways look Rich
     
  4. 2OLD2FAST
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    from illinois

    I'll bite , why do you pull the plugs weekly ??
     
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  5. 19Eddy30
    Joined: Mar 27, 2011
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    19Eddy30
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    from VA

    Fleet maintenance, equipment and vehicles,
    Plugs look rich, from 100hrs to 20,000-50,000 miles
     
  6. Boden
    Joined: Oct 10, 2018
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    Boden

    So now I have taken the carbs apart and noticed the front carbs power valve diaphragm is shot. So I replaced it. Definitely better! But it’s still rich. So it has 49 jets in jt now. And I think I’m going to try 45s.


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  7. Boden
    Joined: Oct 10, 2018
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    Boden

    And to add to that the car will crank and almost kick back. But it’s like it’s hydro locking. Like it hits a hard spot and then it fights throigh it. It’s not timing. Because I retarted the shit out of the timing and it still did it. And if I open the carbs a little while cranking it has a hard time cranking almost as if the battery goes dead. It will barely crank


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  8. Truck64
    Joined: Oct 18, 2015
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    from Ioway

    Could be a few different things. The usual suspects are loose, missing, or old internally corroded ground cables and connections. Weak battery hand in hand with this.

    Just a small amount of nearly invisible paper thin corrosion at any of the ground or cable connections is enough to cripple the alternator current output. It also "fools" the regulator into thinking the battery is fully charged, when it isn't.

    Starter could be on its way out too.
     
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