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Rumblers show shut down

Discussion in 'The Hokey Ass Message Board' started by Ratrod37, Aug 20, 2011.

  1. farmergal
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    Lighten up? really?? There is no "what if" in question here. The guy obviously screwed up, dumped the bike, could've seriously injured himself and the bike and his stupidity couldve seriously injured or killed people. This wasn't an event held in the open air of a fairgrounds...its in NYC. I saw the pictures, and no i did not go to the event, but what makes you think its okay for someone to act like a complete idiot and put others in danger for the sake of "showing off"? The problem with it being in brooklyn is that you're surrounded by concrete and lots of spectators. theres the sidewalk and the streets as the only space between buildings....so where do you expect this runaway motorcycle to go? ...or the people he's about to hit?

    This isnt about challenging the opressors either. i'm pretty sure its about respecting the venue and those who devoted a lot of time into putting the event on...and respecting those around you who are there to view the cars. It's not abotu being a rebel at all. its about some idiot who forgot to use his brain, got a tesosterone high for the sake of showing off, and put a bunch of people in danger....and got the event shut down. I know people who can ride wheelies on harleys without issue. sure its an amazing talent...but better left to be done on private property or on a street where no one is around.

    I just hope this guy finds his brain and uses it next time. show looked cool from the photos, nice turnout
     
  2. gearhead77
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    No problem. It was all I could do to save them from your, "All Out War." They were obviously stunned by my, "Yes, officer."-and-haul-ass-to-the-subway attack.

    I guess I've been to enough shows that have gotten shut down by cops, that it wasn't a big deal. The way the cops shut it down might have not been fair or exactly legal, but they are the cops, and there is no real way to disagree with them without, "resisting," or "obstructing," so my policy is, "Yes, officer," and leave.

    Nobody wants to be the next tazed naked wizard video: http://youtu.be/KsERNGjaafU


    I'm glad we were all wrong.

    Hopefully you can take this as feedback that this is a vital and popular show on top of being awesome. Maybe it can be a reason for whoever does the permitting to allow you a lot more space next year.
     
  3. lockwoodkustoms
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    Wow..........I didnt get to see it.........glad he got up and the guys around got everything off the street in a hurry............
     
  4. Big Nick
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    Laying that bike down was pretty nuts, but Sal is a good dude. I know him pretty well, yeah he was showing off but all in good fun. Just like last year the guy left the show IN A CAR and did a burn out and got sideways and almost lost it. It happens, yes people could have got hurt, no one did. Sal knows how to ride, the kid is a beast on two wheels but shit happens. He walked away with some scrapes and no one got hurt. And even the little event that took place in front of the bar. I was there for that, still no reason to close the event. I think there was and still is a lot of over reastion as to what took place.

    But up until then, killer show, great time, the ride in and out of Brooklyn was killer. Yup I was one of those dirt bag looser bikers that got the event closed, damn me!
     
  5. Zombie Hot Rod
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    The wheelie was amazing, we're just glad that no one got hurt. Sure it could have ended badly, but it didn't. . . a walk to the grocery store to get that gallon of milk your wife's been bitchin' about could end badly too.

    The show was fun, and has been a blast over the last 11 years. I still think that the police over re-acted, and as much as I hate catch phrases. . . "It is what it is".
     
  6. lockwoodkustoms
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    Big Nick I am glad to hear your friend is ok. We all get caught in the moment..like you said no one got hurt but him and the bike ..........anyways he is ok and the bike can be fixed. You guys down that way...through one HELL OF A SHOW.........and I am know hooked .

    Yeah the ride into and back out of Brooklyn was killer ...........my back is sore ........lol...:)
     
  7. farmergal
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    yes but the walk to go get milk wasnt an action of pure stupidity. just my two sense. im glad everyone ended up in good health; but next-time they might not be so lucky.
     
  8. Big Nick
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    Not at all. They shut it down after all that and said it was due to overcrowding. It just seems there are a few people here that are upset about the wheelie even though they werent at the show. Just read MikeB's or Mike47 or Zombie Hotrods posts, they are Rumblers they spoke to the police, they were told the reason.
     
  9. Zombie Hot Rod
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    It's NYC, everyone thinks they get a free pass to act however they want when they are here. From the people at our show, to the drunk jock coming into the city from Connecticut on a Friday night, to the stock broker that commutes in from Westchester, to the hipster from Ohio who's parents are replenishing his bank account on a weekly basis.

    People yell, fight, and liter. Do I think it's cool? No, I was born here, I love this city. . . but I've come to accept that with this show it's inevitable, and it's a big part of why folks love our show. They get to live the NYC fantasy for a day. :)

    Just be glad that The Rumblers don't return the favor and act the same way people act at our show, at other people's shows.

    We are a kind, generous, and courteous bunch that just wants people to have a good time.

    The only injuries at the show this year were wrist bruises from wrongful arrests.
     
  10. Big Nick
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    Well said Brian
     
  11. farmergal
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    i understand that the show was shut down because of overcrowding, not because they guy dumped his bike; im 100% in compliance with what the true reasons for the shut down were. that doesnt make me any less upset about the wheelie incident. The guy who did it could be the best damn guy to walk this Earth but the bottom line is that he used poor judgement. I dont care if he was on a closed off road or racetrack and decided to put his own life in danger; thats his choice. But to be selfish and put the lives of other in danger in such a crowded area at a public event... is uncalled for. you're right; no one was hurt. no one was hurt THIS time around. Does that make it any more "right" or "okay", I certainly don't think so. It's no different than any other event you may attend: respect the event, respect those who work hard to put on the event, respect those fellow riders/drivers attending the event (and respect their cars too),respect the "neighbors" of the event, and respect the general public who are there to enjoy the event.

    the fact is that this was an act of pure stupidity that could've gone HORRIBLY wrong. I bet if someone got run over by that bike there wouldnt be a bunch of HAMBers saying "wow that was one badass wheelie on a harley!!"....the tone would be much different.

    if thats how you claim people act in NYC (i know NYC is an interesting place with a large mix of people, i only live 2 hours away) then why in the world are we wasting time on a thread abou the show being shut down? If its just a drunk, crazy festival complete with everyone having too much ego then i can't imagine that "being a good time." You can have a good time and enjoy the show without acting like complete fools. If bikers were riding like idiots; and car drivers/owners where driving like idiots then i certainly could never see myself wanting to associate with a show like that. God forbid if something ever happened.

    Since this is just a "regular thing" to have happen (bikes doing wheelies, cars doing burnouts and almost losing it", etc.....have you guys ever considered the LIABILITY put on the show if something were to happen due to the poor choices of its attendees.
     
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  12. Big Nick
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    Arent you the same gilr who wanted to start a fight and also stalk a guy from even to event cause he said your car was ugly? You really dont have much of an argument on acts of stupidity.
     
  13. Big Nick
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    MikeB posted it, overcrowding
     
  14. farmergal
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    i wouldnt stalk anyone; but if i ever saw him again and heard him saying what he said to my car...or someone elses vehicle...then you could bet your ass i'd have something to say to him.I dont start fights either...im actually pretty low-key and tend not to want confrontation. if someone wants to act like a jackass....let them do so but when it turns disrespectful like that...then sure im going to mention something to him. That doesnt mean im going to walk up and punch someone in the face or follow him around intentionally...thats just silly.Christ; i'd probably want to shoot myself if i had to listen to that ass spew his "knowledge" for more than 10 minutes. like i said...it all boils down to respect if you want to attend an event. If you dont want to exhibit any; then you shouldnt be there
     
  15. lockwoodkustoms
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    Exactly what he said..............just read what these guys had posted. They were the guys who had to deal with it.
     
  16. Big Nick
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    I'll take your word for it
     
  17. Fenders
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    Well those who were there can say "I was there."
    Hell I was at Laconia in '65 on my '38 Harley -- a friend and I slept on our bikes (try that) on the main street overlooking Wiers Beach that night -- when the National Guard came in the next morning and "escorted" everyone out of town.... between two rows of armed Guardsmen.
    Yup, I was there....
    (But I never did figure out what the problem was....)
     
  18. Zombie Hot Rod
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    There are a lot of "if's, and's, or but's" in here. You can debate all day about how terrible a tragedy would be IF it happened.

    Was the wheelie done in poor judgment? Sure. Did the guy on the bike get hurt? You bet. Did anyone on the street watching get hurt? Thankfully no.

    The show is fully insured and The Rumblers do their very best to keep everything calm and in cool within the confines of the area covered by the permit. Do you really think or expect anyone to be able to control what happens on the street OUTSIDE of the show?

    We see someone doing something stupid and we stop them, but we're only a small group of people who can't be everywhere, all of the time.

    I'd say about 99% of the burn outs are done by someone who's mad that they showed up late, the show was full, they couldn't get it, and did a burn out while they drove away giving us the finger.

    Have you been to any of our shows? Have you supported anything we do? Would you like to volunteer your time and efforts to work security at our show next year? I'll make you a special shirt that says "Burn Out and Wheelie Police".

    . . . but all joking aside, we do out very best to make sure that everyone has a good time in a fun, safe, family friendly atmosphere. . . and let me tell you, it's extremely hard work.

    We were told that we "out grew that space", so now it's onto something both bigger and better.

    P.S. I don't claim that's how people act when they come to NYC from two hours away. It's a fact, I was born, raised, and currently reside here. I have a pretty good grasp on the reality of how people conduct themselves when they come to my city.
     
  19. cederholm
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    Agreed! ...and please note where I'm from.

    ~ Carl
     
  20. magoozi
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    I have been meaning to fly out and check out the show, for I have heard it's a really fun show, I think what is happening is the riot in England has alot of city police nervous lately , and most major citys are afraid of copy cat riots in the U.S. , thats why the cops are on a short fuse, hopefuly the show will continue and I wish the best to the Rumblers.
     
  21. R Frederick
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    It is too bad that the show was shut down because things were appearing to become out of control. But things were appearing to become out of control. With a large attraction like a car show, and someone doing something dangerous to show off, the police did the right thing. They dispursed the crowd, so there was no-one left to show off to. The police saw it as potential for innocent people to be injured or killed. That's not too hard to see. It's not the promoter's fault, but the show suffered.
    I'd be all for watching a guy eat it on a chopper, but I wouldn't want my wife or children killed by a crashing chopper that they weren't expecting to come barreling down the street.
     
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  23. jimmy63t
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    can some one just put an end to this. the show got shut down because of too meny people. people doing stupid shit out in the street is all on them and has nothing to do with the show. if ya don't like it stay out of the street. just please stop bitching a bout who did what and what could have heppend. the show was awesome and i can't wait till next year.
     
  24. Backage
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    And just so you know the Boss on the scene is the one who would call a mobilzation wich iswhat would bring in the Brooklyn North Task force wich is the guys in the riot gear,And if you look at todays post the 90 pct(Williamsburg)has the biggest increase in crime and so on in the city,So that means he is going to be going to One Police Plaza and having his ass chewed out,IF he doesnt get transferd,also the 90 pct is where brooklyn North head qrts is.He is covering his ass now but He will still lose his command.So he decided to bust balls on qaulity of life stuff.
     
  25. farmergal
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    bingo
     
  26. JoeNational
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    Correct!!! Sal is a very good friend of mine known for many years.. We ride and go to events together often... I would ride next to him before anybody else any day of the week... Lets be adults and not laugh as it was an accident... but lets be honest... it was one cool accident... :D

    Sorry the show got shutdown I have never been to it but been wanting to go for years... I'm sure it was a multitude of things that shut it down not one action...
     
  27. SquireDon
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    I heard this whole riot involved a misfit Biker gang called The Black Widows chasing a tan colored '57 Chevy Truck with an orangatane names Clyde inside of it.
     
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  29. Jimv
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    Theres another "You tube" of this accident from the other end & lets face it, friend, good rider ,great guy,whatever, It was a fuck up and someone could have gotten hurt. He lost the bike!! It could have hit anyone! I've been doing fucked up things my whole life & i'll even say that its "not acceptable" Anywhere!!"Ya gotta know your limitations" to quote Clint!!
    JimV
     

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