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Hot Rods Rich's Coupe - a ten year odyssey

Discussion in 'The Hokey Ass Message Board' started by Rich B., Nov 10, 2019.

  1. Rich B.
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    Rich B.
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    from Portage,IN

    My final choice for wheels, and tires. Rears are 16" x 7" w/4" back space, 245 75 R16
    Michelin Latitude Touring. Fronts are 15" x 5" w/3" back space, 205 65 R15
    Michelin Defenders. The rear end is 56" drum face to drum face. coupe193.JPG
     
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  2. Rich B.
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    I cannot live with this gap,and I already repaired this area once. I had used the old
    piece as a measurement , and it had been repaired before. Sooooooooo here we
    go again! We are not evan going to talk about fender fit yet!
    The bottom reveal line did not quite match the door reveal so I cut a piece out, and evened it up. Of course the door bottom gap won't match so it also gets redone for the second time.




    coupe248.JPG coupe249.JPG coupe250.JPG coupe251.JPG
     
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  3. Rich B.
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    After redoing the bottom of door to match cowl. coupe252.JPG
     
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  4. Rich B.
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    Rich B.
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    I'll have to stop posting on this thread for awhile. I have been recovering from
    surgery, and have not been able to work out in the shop. Last couple days I
    been doing some bench work. This sitting around drives me crazy! LOL
    I want to use a original 31 IN plate, of course they are a odd size. I bought
    one of those adjustable frames, but of course I had to modify it. I like the
    looks of the old plate, and will not repaint it. 008.JPG
     
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  6. Rich B.
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    Rich B.
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    It was views like that which led me to set height of grill shell to get the body reveal line
    to look right. The doors over lap the body which throws everthing off any way.

    Rich
     
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  7. Man. This thread moved fast.

    Number 1 : Thanks for posting your ever attentive details.

    Number 2 : These are my favorite kind of threads to take in.

    I realize the luck to witness talent, imagination, and fortitude in not only building your car, but also formatting for others to enjoy.

    Thanks a bunch. Love it.
     
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  8. Following a great build. Thanks.
    Looking forward to seeing it person sometime soon.

    Phil
     
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  9. Rich B.
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    Rich B.
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    x99.jpg That wood buck was routered with a 3/4" rounding bit, and everything sanded smooth. I did not anneal the piece because I wanted no distortion in
    the flat top piece on top. I slowly beat the edges down working the corners into themselves. You cannot allow the wrinkles you form to over lap them selves.
    These wrinkles are used to tuck shrink the metal into itself. Start at the top of the tuck (wrinkle) working down to the wider point to flatten it into itself.
    I'm sliding the hammer towards the center of the corner as I hit the tuck. If the sides were any longer I would not have been able to control the corners.
    With the .063 alum I was able to metal work the marks out, and sand it smooth. We went from 220 grit all the way to 2500 to prep for polishing.
    It's very important to keep the piece clamped tightly while working, and have the cover piece as close to the edge as possible, yet give you room to hit the edge
    with your body hammer. I try to use plastic mallets on the sides, but the corners require a lot of force so I use the body hammer. I order most of my alumn
    from McMaster Carr which will ship 3 x 4 foot pieces ups.
    defog vents are simply made from 1/4" plate. DSC01000_zpsymgktxuj.jpg IMG_0160_zpsbjbook9r.jpg DSC01079_zps0zrepap4.jpg IMG_0221_zpsfndtg5bi.jpg
    I added a finished pic witch shows I added another 1 1/4" to the bottom edge.
     
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  10. Rich B.
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    Here's what they are going on: IMG_0380.JPG IMG_1154_zpssl92ipyl.jpg
     
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  11. Rich B.
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    I was not happy with fender fit. I'm not using fender welting, and need
    a good fit. I bought these from Brookville only to find out they don't
    make these, only the 32's. These pics will be out of order as they are
    spread around my files. A269.JPG A270.JPG A271.JPG A272.JPG
     
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  12. Rich B.
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    I had to make them fit the running boards, and body. I split the flange in several places,
    and rewelded to fit the rear wheel well opening. A275.JPG A276.JPG A274.JPG
     
  13. Rich B.
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    Rich B.
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  14. Rich B.
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    Rich B.
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    Had to redo this panel to fit bottom of grill shell, and shorten to fit fenders. DSC00967.JPG DSC00969.JPG DSC00970.JPG
     
  15. Rich B.
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    Rich B.
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    The reveal line did not match up with the others, these doors did not come with
    this body. coupe378.jpg coupe379.jpg coupe380.jpg coupe381.jpg
     
  16. GordonC
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    Wow Rich! Serious attention to getting everything fitting straight and tight!
     
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  17. Rich B.
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    Gordon: I have had a lot of trouble with the door
    fit up. Every time I get them so I like the fit up, I
    end up redoing it again. I’ve gone through this
    3 times now, so that’s as good as they get!

    Rich
     
  18. alumslot
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    What a fantastic build. I hope to see it some day. Do you do cruise nights if so which ones?

    Jim
     
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  19. Rich B.
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    Rich B.
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    Jim:
    I would have you over to bench race anytime, but
    health problems are keeping me away from home
    right now.
    Love that Dunkin Donuts on Willow Creek right
    off Rt20. On Thursday night. Free coffee and donuts
    My son had the Coupe there a few weeks ago.
    Rich
     
  20. loudbang
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    I love how you you metal magicians just think it doesn't look right snip, bend and hammer and voila presto changeo nice good fitting parts. :)
     
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  21. Blues4U
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    Best wishes on recovering your health Rich
     
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  22. Blues4U
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    Yeah, I love watching this stuff, guys like Rich just amaze the crap outta me.
     
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  23. Rich B.
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    Thanks for the kudos guys, but I don’t compare
    to some of the metal shapers on this site. We are
    lucky to have guys like Mike Wagner (corn field customs) Flop ( Pittsburgh Pa) , Robert of MP&C.
    showing there work.
    I do love it though, nothing like beating the snot
    out of a piece of metal!
    Rich
     
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  24. Rich B.
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    Rich B.
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    I had been wanting to make my own side panels for the hood to mount
    blisters on for valve cover clearance. I was surprised to find the hood
    is closer to 20 gauge than 19 like most of the body. Probably a weight
    issue as the hood is pretty heavy to open. All the panels are hemmed
    to stiffen it up, and also to keep paint on the edges. I also found that the
    edge against the cowl is not straight, it has the slightest curve to it.
    The edge against the rad shell is straight, but neither is 90 degrees from
    the hinged side.
    I made a small try piece so I could figure the take up for the bends, and also
    to finalize the shape of the reveal line. DSC01045.JPG DSC01046.JPG DSC01047.JPG DSC01048.JPG
     
  25. Rich B.
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    I created the hems by over bending the piece in my brake, but did not beat
    them flat with a hammer. I did not want to chance stretching the metal, and
    causing the edges to be wavy. I pressed them flat with my press using only
    enough pressure to close the hem. Probably over cautious, but I have the
    time! DSC01048.JPG DSC01049.JPG DSC01050.JPG DSC01051.JPG
    Now I bent a 90 on the hem which will be the bottom of the reveal line, and
    strengthen the bottom edge of the hood panel.

    I layed out the reveal line on the try piece after trying several methods on scrap.
    To soften the reveal shoulder I move the dies further apart. This isn't a 'perfect'
    match of the body reveal, but pretty darn close.
    Now I can start on the hood panels.
     
  26. Rich B.
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    Rich B.
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    DSC01052.JPG DSC01053.JPG DSC01056.JPG DSC01057.JPG After many, many measurements I laid out the first panel with the only excess
    material at the hinge side. I had to notch the corners for hem clearance.
    To soften the reveal shoulder I move the dies further apart. This isn't a 'perfect'
    match of the body reveal, but pretty darn close.

    After many, many measurements I laid out the first panel with the only excess
    material at the hinge side. I had to notch the corners for hem clearance.
    The blue tape is the hood position when closed.
     
  27. Rich B.
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    Rich B.
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    I'm using the hinge from the original hood. I plan to overlay my panel onto
    the hinge assembly. The stock side panels have a offset in them that
    allows them to fit under the top panel. I hope to duplicate this to attach
    my panel to.
    I had to reshape the hinge slightly to make up for the thickness of adding my panel.
    DSC01063.JPG DSC01065.JPG DSC01066.JPG DSC01067.JPG
     
  28. mgtstumpy
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    Wow, how'd I miss this thread given my build is similar and over 10yrs in the making. Love it!
     
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  29. Rich B.
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    Rich B.
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    DSC01093.JPG DSC01094.JPG This view shows the hinge which I have bent a 90 on for strength, and trimmed
    back the ends of the 90 to clear rad shell, and firewall lacing. Note the over lap of my panel to match the original, very little margin for error. I used the same bead
    roller setup to form the overlap. I ran the bead than cut it back till leave the
    desired shape. I riveted the panel on which saves a bunch of work, and will
    match up to my blisters.
    DSC01068.JPG DSC01069.JPG DSC01070.JPG DSC01072.JPG
     
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  30. Rich B.
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    Rich B.
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    The above pic shows the panel after hand forming a gentle bend in the whole panel
    to match firewall, and rad shell. The bottom lower left part of the panel did not
    want to follow the curve of the firewall. I had to shrink the small 90 on the bottom
    of the reveal line from the middle of the hood to the corner.

    DSC01077.JPG DSC01083.JPG
    This pic shows the gentle curve in the finished panel (sorry for the poor pic!)
     

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