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Technical reversed a couple wheels yesterday..

Discussion in 'The Hokey Ass Message Board' started by Paul, Jul 12, 2019.

  1. Paul
    Joined: Aug 29, 2002
    Posts: 14,736


    tires were a little close to the body on a fenderless A roadster for possible future cycle fenders
    and the hub caps of choice wouldn't clear the centers.
    so I thought I'd take some pictures of the process.
    no tire machine, no bead breaker, not even a tire iron
    did use a drill press and mig welder though..

    the process has been shown countless times before but here we go again..

    use something heavy to break the bead free of the rim

    roll the tire over and break the other bead


    rassle the tires off the rims, being careful not to hurt the tire


    center punch and pilot drill the rivets, but not all the way through


    using larger bit as a counter sink remove the swedged rivet head


    use a hammer and punch to knock the rivets out


    use the BFH and drift to knock the centers free of the rims


    clean up the mating surfaces and knock the centers back in aligning all rivet holes


    mount the wheel on an axle and check for true


    short welds in alternating pattern to avoid warping


    rivet holes welded and valve stem relocated


    wrestle the tires on to the rims, use a strap to force bead to rim and fill with air


    and there ya have it

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  2. Very cool! Thanks for showing me with pictures. That is way better for me than just reading about it.
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  3. 19Fordy
    Joined: May 17, 2003
    Posts: 6,768


    Very well done.
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  4. Nice tech,thanks for the how-to.
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  5. That’s very cool! You do nice work. Thanks for the how to article. This is something I never would have thought of doing

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  6. buffaloracer
    Joined: Aug 22, 2004
    Posts: 793

    from kansas

    Thanks for the how-to.
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  7. Kan Kustom
    Joined: Jul 20, 2009
    Posts: 2,541

    Kan Kustom

    Nice job. Thanks for sharing.
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  8. That's how it was done back in the day.
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  9. Silva
    Joined: Apr 28, 2005
    Posts: 433

    from TX

    Awesome quick tech...Love the A roadster!
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  10. Sporty45
    Joined: Jun 1, 2015
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    from NH Boonies

    Very cool, thanks for the write up :cool:
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  11. BuckeyeBuicks
    Joined: Jan 4, 2010
    Posts: 1,949

    from ohio

    I knew a guy about 40 years ago that had an idea something like that, only he used a torch and a stick welder. When he mounted them on the back of his 56 Chevy it wobbled so bad it about shook all the rust and bondo out of that poor old car:eek: Your way looks a whole lot better! Thanks for posting.
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  12. Brand Apart
    Joined: Jan 22, 2011
    Posts: 619

    Brand Apart
    from Roswell GA

    Very cool, I'm assuming these riveted wheels are not fairly common? I've never noticed but then again I just may not have really paid attention. I will in the future. Loved the dropping a truck on them to break the bead, chalk that up as another 'why didn't I think of that one" idea.
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  13. can mount tires on wheels by placing a garbage bag over the rim, then pry the tire over the helps the tire go over the rim,..mite need a bag to do each side of tire,..I tried this trick, it does work, can also use dish soap on the rim edge to help.
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  14. Paul
    Joined: Aug 29, 2002
    Posts: 14,736


    I used Windex as the lube when taking the tire off the rim, WD40 on the wheels when knocking them apart and Armorall when puting the tire back on the rim.
    The Windex could have been any soap, WD40 could have been any good penetrant and Armorall was to not only lube but soften to help seal, it too could have been anything comparable..
    All were chosen because they were handy and in spray bottles.
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  15. slowmotion
    Joined: Nov 21, 2011
    Posts: 3,182


    Good write up. I'd have been tempted to blast 'em and coat 'em with a shiney enamel of your choice, capless.
    But I'm one of those guys who just likes the looks of a true reversed wheel! :D
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  16. clem
    Joined: Dec 20, 2006
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    We use a tractor - easier to see as you drive on. - How do you do it ?
  17. Marty Strode
    Joined: Apr 28, 2011
    Posts: 4,695

    Marty Strode

    We used to use a bumper jack, the square base put a lot of pressure on the bead. Great tech Paul, doing it like we did 55 years ago.
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  18. Thanks for sharing a lot of common sense Garage Engineering - not so common these days.

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  19. I can see none of you guys have never had the misfortune to mount heavy truck tires. This is where a tire bead breaker hammer is used. It’s a large sledgehammer with a spoon type bill on it. A couple of well placed blows and the bead is broken. Practice on an old shity wheel and tire first. Get it wrong, and you will be looking for a new wheel. Heavy truck rims are slightly thicker than car wheels. Your results may vary!

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  20. Stogy
    Joined: Feb 10, 2007
    Posts: 16,085


    Holy Innovative Batman...Very Cool and the Hotrod Equally Very Cool...Run with Whatcha Got...

    @Paul Remington Cushion Air are those a Modern Tire like the Firestone Champions...They look Right at Home...;)
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  21. clem
    Joined: Dec 20, 2006
    Posts: 2,797


    Nice welding, nice article. Thanks
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  22. clem
    Joined: Dec 20, 2006
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    We used an 80 ton press, and I was amazed at just how tight they were.
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  23. Never2old
    Joined: Oct 14, 2010
    Posts: 627

    from so cal

    Are those repop hubcaps?

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  24. Paul
    Joined: Aug 29, 2002
    Posts: 14,736


    To be honest I never looked at them real close, not my car.
    I just assumed they were original '56 Olds Fiesta.
  25. Great tech write up Paul! I could have used you at our tire store back in the day:D
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  26. flatheadpete
    Joined: Oct 29, 2003
    Posts: 9,674

    from Burton, MI

    Nice! Thanks for the well written and illustrated how-to.
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  27. catdad49
    Joined: Sep 25, 2005
    Posts: 4,086


    Last time I saw a how-to on this, the magazines were a lot smaller! I'm sure you took 'er for a test drive. Thanks, Carp.
    Last edited: Jul 13, 2019
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  28. HarryT
    Joined: Nov 7, 2006
    Posts: 533


    Very instructive 'how-to'. Great job on the write up.
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  29. bill gruendeman
    Joined: Jun 18, 2019
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    bill gruendeman

    Cool tech, the old school way
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