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Projects Resurrecting the Mehoopany Coupe - 1936 Ford 5W

Discussion in 'Traditional Hot Rods' started by 50DropTop, Dec 3, 2017.

  1. 50DropTop
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    Made a little more progress on the coupe since my last post. Rolled it out for a couple shots before the sun went down. Don't pay any attention to the antifreeze spot on the driveway, the engine is currently without hoses, now to figure out how to get them back on without disassembling the entire front end...or worse the grill. Also, I'm not real thrilled with the Bob Drake stainless fender trim. The fit was mediocre at best, any suggestions on what others are/have using/used? I'm also debating on painting it black so it doesn't stand out as much. Anyway, a little more body work and it will be ready to drop on the frame.
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  2. 63Compact
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    Looking good
     
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    Gonna be Sweet(er)!
     
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  4. 50DropTop
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    Thanks guys, appreciate the kind words!!
     
  5. cvstl
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    Very nice...... can you run dual exhaust through there with Richard's brake conversion?
     
  6. 50DropTop
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    It's going to be really tough....I was looking at it today trying to figure out exactly how to run this exhaust.

    Right now, I've cut the exhaust just before it goes through the X member on the passenger side.
     
  7. 50DropTop
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    Video of the flathead running...20+ lbs of oil pressure at idle...looks good to me.

     
  8. 50DropTop
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    cvstl,

    Just ordered a dual exhaust setup from Waldron. I'm expecting to have to make some mods where the brake setup is. I'll keep you posted and should have some pics of the duals soon!

    Stay tuned.
     
  9. cvstl
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    That's why I went with 39 pedals....... well, that and because I'm a tight wad. I did buy the backing plat adapters from him. That kit looks really slick, though.

    I'm doing a similar 36 5w. Unfortunately, not original paint, just an old, bad repaint.

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  10. 50DropTop
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    I don't see no bad repaint from here! Looks like another solid '36!
     
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    Both of you have cool 36's.
     
  12. 50DropTop
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    Working on some details while I wait for the Waldron dual exhaust. I was struggling with where to mount the coil. I didn't want to drill into the inner fenders and using the 'remote coil' adapter on the '36 helmet distributor pretty much dictates the coil wire needs to be directed towards the rear of the engine, if not the fan blade will hit the coil wire. So, I spent a little time yesterday fabricating a coil bracket that uses the two intake bolts nearest the risers. The riser is offset from these bolts about a 1/2", so I had to take that into consideration to get the coil centered with the riser. Here's a couple photos....open to thoughts and opinions.

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  13. cvstl
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    Looks good. Some coils don't last long side mounted tho.

    That being said, mine is horizontal in my 37. With several years and thousands of miles on it. I just carry a spare. So I'd leave it like that and get an extra for the trunk.
     
  14. Looking forward to seeing the finished product!
    As a younger man I used to think that Hot Rods didn't have fenders (29-34).
    As an older man I've come to realize that these cars are ever bit as beautiful as the 33-34, you just can't(shouldn't) go fenderless.
    You could clearly tell that the auto makers of the time were wanting you to buy a piece of art.
    I like the direction you are going with this car.
    Good save!
     
  15. 50DropTop
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    Thanks BLUSHU!


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    Good advice! I'm quite positive I'll have an extensive "emergency kit" list before the end of the build. I read in another post that spare helmet distributors should be part of the kit, as working on points on the side of the road is not feasible with these distributors. Since helmets are bolt and go, never leave home without a spare! :confused: Sounds a little crazy to me.

    I've taken the '50 in my avatar on some pretty lengthy road trips....never even carried a tool kit. :) Does that mean I'm overly optimistic? I think I need to meet somewhere in the middle between nothing and everything and a spare coil is a good start! Thanks again!!
     
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    Waldron's exhaust arrived. Right side went together like a charm, left side will need a little modification the clear Richard Lacey's master cylinder mount.

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    Normally this pipe would be turned to run along the fame rail to clear the battery box.

    I've oriented it to turn down (out of the muffler) rather than left. Seeing how close the pipe from the manifold is to the brake line, I may drop that pipe below the frame rail (rather than through) to meet up with the intermediate pipe that feeds the muffler.
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    I also cleaned up the original bumper. Coke and aluminum foil did the trick.

    Before:
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    After:
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    Mounted:
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  18. 50DropTop
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    cvstl...any update?
     
  19. cvstl
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    Nah, I'm pretty slow.... lots of "pay the bills" work going on leaves little time for fun work.

    I did get my trans shaft back and reassembled, so I'll be putting my OD trans back together as soon as I get the case cleaned up, and I'll be pulling the springs to reverse the main leaves when we gather for the SWMO Hot Rod Hundred in a couple of weeks. Now that you talked me into pulling the body, that will probably happen early April. 20180306_202044.jpg
     
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  20. 50DropTop
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    Gears are looking good; doesn't look like any wear at all!
     
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    B0F065A6-443E-4212-BDD5-E49B05246690.jpeg F6B2DA0C-6E6D-4BA8-81C6-7B20E9A6C19D.jpeg FDDD6FAE-5EF0-442C-8D4E-224EE66E2FAB.jpeg First weekend I’ve been on the ‘36 since March. Got the Waldons exhaust junction worked out on Friday. A local muffler shop was able to bend the pipe in like 45 minutes; perfect fit (this was to clear Richard Lacey’s brake setup). I can’t say enough about the Waldons exhaust; worked straight out of the box with the exception of my modified battery box area. I’ll post some photos once I get the pipe welded and installed. In the meantime, I set the body back on the frame to get an idea of stance; front is good... back is jacked!! I’ve already ordered a Posies reversed eye rear spring, hope to have it in this week. I need to bring the back down about 2.5”, minimum. Currently I have the stock spring with 3 leaves removed. It honestly looks higher than it did initiallly?? Also, that brown on it is dust!! Shows how long it’s been sitting...:(
     
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  22. 50DropTop
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    Finally got the rear down. Installed a Posie reversed eye rear spring and removed leaf 1 & 3. Now to finish a small patch on the rear pan, pull the body back off the frame to paint the underside and inside, and finish the assembly work!
     

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    So, the more I looked at the rear I just wasn’t entirely happy with it. I felt it needed to come down just a little bit more. So, I installed a set of ‘42-‘48 rear shackles. That brought the rear down about another 1.5”. Here’s how it’s currently sitting.

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    You can see the longer shackle here and it’s angle...hope it doesn’t cause too much rear end movement.
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    Ignore the bracket bolted onto the spring, that’s my rig for using a portapak to spread the spring being it’s a reversed eye.

    I also mounted the right side tail light stand. Since this was a standard car, there were no holes in the fender for the mounting. I think I got it pretty close. I was also lucky enough to find one that matched the character of the car (paint wise).

    Newly mounted right side
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    Original left side
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    From the rear
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    I also welded in the only piece of non-Henry steel in this car, the left side fender patch. All I can say is that it still needs some MAJOR surgery. The profile of the patch is just wrong! It’s the curvature that’s not correct, if you line the corner of the fender with the running board, it pulls the fender about a quarter inch out from its original mounting location. In studying the patch, there are two main flaws. 1 - the step from the running board mount to the vertical portion of the fender is too shallow. 2 - the profile of the curve from the outside in is too flat. There’s still some structure left on what I cut out, I may just patch that and scrap the aftermarket patch panel.

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    Anyone got a donor piece for a drivers side fender?
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  24. catdad49
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    Do a separate post for this problem, there are some metal wizards on here! That thing is Sweeet.
     
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    Yep...about 20 miles from where I live. Couple houses, traffic light and a gas station!
     
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    Haven’t had much time to focus on the coupe, but I was able to get some progress on the leading edge of the left rear fender.

    My final solution involved using the front of a later model fender I picked up at the Charlotte Auto Fair this September.

    Even with original Ford metal, there was still quite a bit of work to get this piece to fit. I’ve come to the conclusion that 1936 (and maybe 1935) have a much shallower profile than the 37-40 fenders. Here’s a few shots along the way. I had to both patch and section it to get it to fit.

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    I also put a coat of lacquer in the truck gutter and installed new weatherstripping.
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  27. cvstl
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    Looking good..... mine is not near that nice. Hoping to have the body off within the next couple of weeks. Your stance is just right, but will probably sag a little in the rear. What size are your tires?
     
  28. 50DropTop
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    Thanks for the kind words! I don’t get a lot of time to work on her.

    Yeah, I’m actually hoping the rear settles just a little bit more, but overall the stance is much better than with the stock spring (with 3 leaves removed).

    As far as tires, 5.50s in the front, 7.00s in the rear. I originally was going to go 7.50s in the rear, but I’m glad I stuck with the 700s.
     
  29. cvstl
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    Thanks..... those are my planned tire sizes. But I've been waffling and thinking 750s. Not anymore. Yours is just right.
     
  30. 50DropTop
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    With the holidays approaching, I actually managed to find a little time to get back on the ‘36. I welded the roof in around June of ‘17, just never got around to metal finishing it. So yesterday I started working with the dolly and slap file to straighten the panel out. It may be hard to see in the photo below, but it had quite a few high and low spots from welding. Also, I had already worked a portion of the roof in this photo starting at the seam working towards the rear. I still need to weld up my cleco hole :)
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    After a few hours, I finally ended with this
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    I still have a little more work to get this where I’m satisfied with it. I have yet to hit it with a shrinking disc to get the final high spots shrunk back.

    Now to move to the other side.
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