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relieving a flathead

Discussion in 'The Hokey Ass Message Board' started by 1964reo, Nov 14, 2012.

  1. 1964reo
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    how do you go about relieveing a flathead ford v8 by the valves and piston and how much thanks
     
  2. Saxon
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    Ill get the ball rolling...
     
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  3. 1964reo
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    im talking about bet twin thevalves and pistons on a flathead ford v8
     
  4. Saxon
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    Very little on the deck surface. But it depends on the head. Maybe some more info...
     
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  5. Relic Stew
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    There are newer theories on how to do it, but here is the traditional method.

    From the 1952 Fawcett Books "How to Build Hot Rods"
     

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  6. mastergun1980
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    Check out Joe Abblin's book "335hp Flathead Ford v8 Performance Handbook "
    It deals maily with supercharged flatheads but gives very good advise on porting and relieiving flatheads - Also check out Tex Smith's COmplete flathead ford maunal - I prefer Joe's method -
     
  7. Saxon
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    Good stuff. The more you take from the deck surface the more you lower compression. Flow.
     
  8. 1964reo
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    thanks i will have to find couple books
     
  9. 1964reo
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    must help with the air flow to the valves
     
  10. mastergun1980
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    Very true.. But Flatheads don't breathe very well at all - More flow yeilds more power even after the compression loss. Acording to Joe Abblin a constant depth releif of .125 yeilds 14-18% more flow on high compression heads and 7-8% on low compression heads - but only lowers compression .2 - .3 of a point which only causes about a 1% power loss - but the power gain from the increase in flow is much more substantial 14% flow would translate to roughly 14% more power. ( aprox )
     
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  12. Saxon
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    Might have to do some reading. Interesting. Is this based on a supercharged engine or a carbureted engine?
     
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  14. Saxon
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    Granted a supercharged engine can be carbureted. But would out forced air induction.
     
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  15. mastergun1980
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    According to Joe ( I have talked to him about this on the phone for hour on end ) It's an advantage weither blown or naturally aspriated. And it you think about it, The more air/fuel you have to compress the more power you're gonna get, a blower is just gonna amplify that. I also HAve talked to a couple old timers that raced dirt track they both swore by releif cuts- and denver heads ( slightly higher compression ) And they were restricted to 1 carb - Said the releif made a huge difference .
     
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  16. mastergun1980
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    Joes 335 hp motor ( blown ) still made 217 with 3x2's - it is a 4" merc crand and a .125 over bore - a 276 -- isky 400 cam - Joe's Flathead improvements are centered on improving air flow - 1.6 pro flow valves, port & releif - in fact he modified the offy heads aand cut them for bigger chambers - compression was 8.2 - 1 - According to his reasearch Air flow is the key -
     
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  17. CNC-Dude
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    Very true, many people try to apply OHV techniques and technology to Flatheads, and it just doesn't work. More compression in a Flathead actually hurts airflow because it makes the transition area smaller and more restrictive.
     
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  18. 1964reo
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    good info thanks
     
  19. tubman
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    Don't do it; you may run across a set of Ardun heads at the next garage sale you stop at.:D
     
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