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  1. mcmopar
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    Brian, good luck on the new one. Now I see stupid fast in your future. See ya at PRI.
    Tony
     
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  2. woodbutcher
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    :(Hi Brian.Sorry for your loss.Wishing you and yours the best in the future.
    Leo
     
  3. tony just a heads up on the pri. you can get crazy thirsty walking around looking at the latest and greatest race car parts for four days. you need to come properly prepared if you know what I mean. hambers will meet Friday night after the show at hooters. all drag week racers are invited to. joel we are cutting you off early this year.
     
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  4. DDDenny
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    Careful there Brian, the hooch will spend your money.
     
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  5. saltflats
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  6. This is in the new MSRA Linechaser publication...
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  7. David Gersic
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    Ooh shiney! Looks good. Sorry about the back story, but good to see them going to a good home.


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  8. David Gersic
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    Mine arrived today. Looks like a nice feature.



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  9. Gammz
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    Just read the spread in the Hot Rod mag. Very nice piece.


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  10. 1949 caddyman
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    What will be the cubic inch after the smaller sleeves?
     
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  11. squirrel
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  12. Its around 526. I would need to do the math
     
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  13. I found a good way to spend the afternoon. The stage five rockers are all assembled. The stands are keith black. They 20171204_213440.jpg 20171210_145355.jpg 20171210_145420.jpg are no longer available. The gold ones were the best ones they made due to the material used and the steel inserts placed were the studs come through. This keeps the stands from pinching the studs when the nuts are torqued making for a easier disassemble. Not too many years ago this was top fuels best set up.
     
  14. 20171211_125943.jpg 20171211_152846.jpg 20171211_153658.jpg 20171211_175434.jpg 20171211_152955.jpg 20171211_152915.jpg The work never ends. Today i got the bear claws i purchased at the pri show glass beaded. Now i can have matching rims for the street tires and slicks. The other thing i did was getting the sleeves removed. The block is first put in a cage. The cage is then lowered into the furnace. Its slowly brought up to 225 degrees as the block is rotated. The block grows enough to allow the sleeves to be pulled out with the sleeve puller. The piece that grabs the sleeve is bore specific. To put in new sleeves the block is heated again and the sleeves go on ice. They will drop right in. At the track a quick tear down is important while the engine is still hot. If it cools too much it makes the job very difficult. Notice the area were the sleeves go in is solid. Not all blocks are solid. This block is designed to hold water.
     
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  15. BuiltFerComfort
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    If the area where the sleeves are are solid, and the block is designed to hold water, where does the water go? Are there water passages in the cylinder area outside the sleeve area?
     
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  16. David Gersic
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    Track tear down includes pulling the cylinder sleeves?



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  17. mgtstumpy
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    526ci it is going by chart
    displacementChart.jpg
     
  18. rooman
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    It does for the big show guys.

    Roo
     
  19. After a pass we leak down the cylinders. If there is a indication that something is wrong we pull the head. If the cyinder is scored we change the sleeve. If its a bent or burned valve we change those. I dont normally need to change sleeves but we are always ready.
    My block looks like a normal block when the sleeve is pulled. The sleeve is not in direct contact with any water. It goes in a bored and honed out hole. The water makes contact with the aluminum only. The block has water passages. The sleeves dont need o-rings or sealant. The wet blocks do have sleeves that have water in direct contact with them. There is a sleeve register top and bottom. The middle is hollow. This style block is hard to seal. I dont have a pic of this style block. Another positive coming from sleeving the block with a smaller bore is the cylinder walls become thicker. This promotes better ring seal.
     
  20. Hemi Joel
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    What will the finished bore be?
     
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  21. 4 3/16" this is the one of the most common bore sizes for a fuel car.
     
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  22. squirrel
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    it's a 496 isn't it? 500 inch limit for TF, isn't it?

    but I could be wrong.
     
  23. 496 it is according to the chart. the chart is cool. I drove the jakes sped shop altered wheelbase 65 Plymouth several times.
     
  24. Hemi Joel
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    Interesting, I wasn't aware that they went that small. That's smaller than a stock Hemi, which is 4-1/4".
     
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  25. squirrel
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    They need really thick sleeves, eh? Nitro is wicked stuff
     
  26. Fordors
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    In the past a 5/8” stroker was typically used and when 3/4” cranks became the norm then the bores had to be reduced to stay in the 500 c.i. limit. The 3/4 crank loads the engine more resulting in more nitro burnt.
    More nitro= more power.
     
  27. David Gersic
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    So there’s enough residual heat in the block to take the sleeves out and get the new ones in? Assume you keep the spares cold, just in case. But if you’re not fast enough, either they won’t come out, or the new ones won’t go in, and the weekend is over unless you can find or rig up a way to heat the block?




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  28. squirrel
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    or use your other spare block, but that would take a while to swap out.
     
  29. David Gersic
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    I can’t picture a spare block stuffed in to this coupe on Drag Week, though.



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  30. squirrel
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    Getting that far into the motor on drag week means something is seriously wrong.
     
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