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Projects rebuilding after the crash

Discussion in 'The Hokey Ass Message Board' started by racer-x, Sep 19, 2015.

  1. We are sure its the bv. I can push it back in with a light tap. No press needed.

    Guys have been sending me pics and videos of both times we went to run. Thanks.. If any one finds something can they forward it to me? I may not have come across it yet.
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  2. Cara Marie
    Joined: Jul 18, 2016
    Posts: 17

    Cara Marie

    Here are a few pictutes I found online from ClearOne Photography.

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  3. wicarnut
    Joined: Oct 29, 2009
    Posts: 8,535


    Back in the day the hilborn systems I used on my midget and Sprint car engines had the main return and pressure bleed offs with direction arrows. Does your system have anything like that ? I'm guessing the newer systems have changed some, but the mechanical system has to be the same with improvement's. Just a thought this am, That would explain extreme pressure at Barrell valve.
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  4. I have two valves coming off the shut off valve. one is a pump saver the other a lean out valve. both return fuel to the inlet side of the pump. the other valve is the idle check valve. they are going in the right direction. we think its a bushing issue as it seems too small.
  5. wicarnut
    Joined: Oct 29, 2009
    Posts: 8,535


    Interesting, all my lines returned to the fuel tank, but anything I had did not use the volume of fuel your engine uses
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  6. I also have two returns going to the tank. one for the idle check valve the other is the main return. the third line on the tank is the vent.
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  7. im happy to report I just got off the phone with Jason at super bell axle/pete and jakes. we finalized a deal that we feel will be a win win for both of us. he will have the parts to my door Friday so I can start mocking up the brakes this weekend. Jason was very helpful the first time around when I needed a raw unmachined axle. he also provided a lot of technical information we needed to make it all work. he really out did himself this time helping us get back on the track. a true friend of the hot rodders. thank you super bell axle co.
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  8. Runnin shine
    Joined: Apr 12, 2013
    Posts: 3,328

    Runnin shine

    I can't wait for the wheel replacement to arrive. I suspect it will need polishing at a later date.

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  9. the wheels should have arrived today. they will get polished after we are done machining them. it most likely wont happen right away. I swear at the wheels every time I have to polish them. when im done I step back and think how cool they look all shined up. there is nothing like polished magnesium.
  10. enloe
    Joined: May 10, 2006
    Posts: 9,185

    from east , tn.

    I let Ethan join the H.A.M.B. today his username is TnEthan and he is already following you:)
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  11. tombstone
    Joined: Jan 15, 2006
    Posts: 412

    from sk.canada

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  12. Runnin shine
    Joined: Apr 12, 2013
    Posts: 3,328

    Runnin shine

    HotWheels or Matchbox should be making this car in miniature for every young boy or girl to imagine making insane launches all day long.

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  13. the head headlights; shocks and wheels arrived. the wheels are some of the nicest mag wheels i have seen in some time. the old tires on them look brand new. vern offered up a great pair of wheels. i was able to remove the three front exhaust pipes today. i put them in the band saw first cutting them off close to the flange. then used a hard grinding wheel to remove the left over material. i finished it off with a flexible abrasive wheel to remove any left over powder coating. then i needed to die grind out the weld and pipe on the inside of the flange. that sucked but its done ready for new pipes. the bracket for the torsion bar heim was straightened and welded. i also picked up a new heim joint. i pressed bushings into the shocks and removed the barrel valve. i need more time in the day. they are too short.
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  14. I cant believe the kind of support i have received in the last week from the racing comunity. Today the replacement pipes showed up from hedman hedders. When i sent chris a text message describing what happened and what i needed he sent back that he was on vacation but would take care of the order. Hows that for customer service? I was looking through the box for the invoice so i could get a check out asap but couldnt find one. When i called them chris said this ones on me just put a sticker on the drag week trailer and call it good. How cool is that. This is another great example of the good guys we have in the racing community. 20170721_154841.jpg
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  15. Tim
    Joined: Mar 2, 2001
    Posts: 13,644

    from KCMO

    Very cool
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  16. saltflats
    Joined: Aug 14, 2007
    Posts: 11,291

    from Missouri

    That was a gracious move on his part that I am sure has to help the sting.
    I will remember to buy Hedman products in the future.
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  17. It may not look like much so far but the car is going back together. I needed to get some work done before the axle went back on. The front section of frame that is removable took a hit. The fuel tank and headlight would not go back into position. I used a porta power to move it back where it was originally. It wasnt off much but i needed get it right without making it worse. It took some time but everything fits now. The torsion bar has also been reassembled and installed. Im confident i will get it done so i registered for the hamb drags. 20170721_203740.jpg 20170721_203831.jpg 20170721_203842.jpg
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  18. Daeng, you are faster than your coupe. Always two steps ahead. Whatever mushrooms you have in your soup, I need that recipe
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  19. wrenchbender
    Joined: Sep 5, 2007
    Posts: 2,190


    Brian glad you are getting it back together and hope all goes well at Woodward and if all works out I'll see you at the H.A.M.B. Drags also I was wondering on your front wheels why you don't just use the new American spindle mount 5 spokes they are all ready machined for disc brakes I get that aluminum wheels are not mag but in your case I would think it would cost less and could have parts quicker in this instance

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  20. Tbere arent any available and havent been for years. i have never seen a set used for sale. the new ones only came set up for a anglia spindle. this would create another mess because no one makes a axle for anglia. i found that out the first time. it took 40 hrs to make the last axle. with the ford style wheel i can use off the shelf parts saving a lot of time. we need to do the brakes either way i just cut out doing a lot of work. i did think about that option.
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  21. 20170722_213551.jpg A new side of pipes are tacked up. I did a leak down test and found number 3 was still leaking at 50-60 percent. I knew it wàs like that prior to the meltdown event. It was coming out of the exhaust mainly. If its exhaust its safe to run. Intake not safe. So i pulled the head and the exhaust valve was bent .007 i can straighten it but i have some spares so i will put one of those in. The rest of the engine checked out good. View attachment 3602488
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  22. squirrel
    Joined: Sep 23, 2004
    Posts: 51,157


    Pulling a head is between rounds maintenance on fuel cars, eh? :)
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  23. I was setting the valves and got distracted. I always put a pushrod down the spark plug hole and turn over the engine with a ratchet on the blower. The pushrod comes up and im at tdc. On a very rare occasion the pushrod goes sideways and hits a valve. I remember i was in a hurry and pinched one. The crazy thing is the car still went 5.19 in the eighth wounded. Things that make you go hmmm.
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  24. It was hot humid and miserable but anything that could be done this weekend has been done. The engine is serviced. Number 3 cylinder is good again. Its ready to run. The street tires and street zoomies are on. All of the components removed previously are back on. I cleaned up and filed the area where the shock mount was cut off. I then put the acid solution on the area to blend it all in. Monday i will start putting the axle on. I also need to order a new front tire. It was punctured in the side wall. Over all a good weekend of progress. 20170723_190728.jpg 20170723_190816.jpg
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  25. OahuEli
    Joined: Dec 27, 2008
    Posts: 5,124

    from Hawaii

    This probably doesn't really sound right, but all the troubles and misfortunes you have experienced have surely provided a wealth of knowledge to a lot of us. I've learned a lot as no doubt many have. Hopefully better times and quicker E.T.s are on the horizon.
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  26. With how fast it ran on a 900 foot licence run im sure the next pass will be in the sevens. The eighth mile times tell me that. Im learning a lot as i go and just passing it on.
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  27. rooman
    Joined: Sep 20, 2006
    Posts: 4,052


    The new aluminum ones actually cost more (quite a bit more, too) than Brian spent on the mag originals--I know because I have both versions. The new Americans were made by Weld (for American Racing) and at the moment I can't find them listed at any of the major suppliers (Summit or Jegs) but they were listed at $780 each the last time that I checked.

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  28. Gray Ford
    Joined: Oct 18, 2008
    Posts: 491

    Gray Ford
    from Illinois

    Brian ... Please add my thanks to the list ...As has been said, we are all learning from your misfortunes but are happy to be sharing in your success... A quick question about maintenance...I understand the need for pulling the heads & doing internal inspections to avoid greater internal damage ,but does the hardware, ( head studs,nuts,etc), get replaced during every teardown?? It would seem that this could get very expensive very quickly.... A suggestion if I can .. Could you use a longer rod of some type as a "tool" to show TDC during valve adjustments ? This might avoid the possibility of the pushrod falling into the cylinder..? The rod could be part of the "tools" needed during the adjustment procedure ....Just a thought ...
    Thanks again for sharing your passion with us ....

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  29. Tim
    Joined: Mar 2, 2001
    Posts: 13,644

    from KCMO

    As soon as you start fueling it with nitro I think the word affordable gets deleted from
    Your vocabulary lol
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  30. we reuse the hardware most of the time. its only replaced when they show signs of wear. yes it can get expensive fast. to give you a example current nitro dragsters replace the lower blower pulley bolts after five passes. there are six of them at a cost of 35.00 each. im not at that level but we do wear things out. clean lubricated threads avoids most problems. as for the tdc checker it wasn't a issue of being too short I had the piston too far down in the bore. the piston was at bdc. the rod slipped to the exhaust side of the piston putting it on a angle were it interfered with the valve. I should of put the checker in with the piston on the upstroke. it was a over sight during a 18hr thrash. I use a old exhaust pushrod as a checking tool. the way I normally do it is turn the engine over watching the intake rocker to open the valve. I keep turning the engine watching for the valve to close. then I place the pushrod down the spark plug hole watching for it to stop rising. I then verify tdc against the balancer. if its quiet I can hear the points click in the mag. then I know im only 36 degrees from tdc. I don't have extra engines laying around so maintainance is critical. every part is stressed to the max. my servicing consists of heads torqued; lash run; spring pressure checked; leak down performed; fresh oil; filter cleaned; belt tension checked; timing checked; plugs inspected; wheels retorqued; tire pressure checked; chute packed. we put the car in the air and inspect the entire bottom of the car. this is just a partial list of what we do between rounds or at home. everyone has a different way of doing things.

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