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Discussion in 'The Hokey Ass Message Board' started by racer-x, Sep 19, 2015.

  1. Yah it would have been nice. I might run to Iowa Friday. The head could be fixed and everything back together this weekend. It will depend on if it needs to be welded.
     
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  2. enloe
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    Well I was looking forward to hanging out but I guess I will have to annoy Jim instead...
     
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  3. woodbutcher
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    :( Well now.Ain`t that a kick in the head.At least Brian is ok.Things are easily fixed.People,not so much.
    Good luck.Have fun.Be safe.
    Leo
     
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  4. Saxxon
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    To borrow a phrase from Mike Bilina
    "Amen Brother"

    See you in Rock Falls
    .
     
  5. dirty old man
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    Brian, meeting you and your ace partner in this adventure was great. And I'm sorry that you had such rotten luck after all the work and expense.
    Wondered why your run was so much later than the other unlimiteds, now I know, damn shame. But there's always next time;)
     
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  6. ironrodder
    Joined: Jan 29, 2007
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    I know of aluminum heads cut all the way to the outside with a furrow you could pay a finger in, and repaired. Just goes to show the heat nitro can create. Sorry about the bad luck but look forward to the next act. Really one badass car and driver.
     
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  7. klleetrucking
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    I was at Darlington and I too wondered about them bringing you up with no track prep like the unlimited cars.
    It was an honor to meet yourself and Jim.
     
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  8. hog mtn dave
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    Bummer. Are you driving the coupe back to Commerce?..bringing the rig to Charlotte? I always wondered about the logistics when stuff breaks.
     
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  9. The damage was caused by steam. The gasket leaked causing communication between the water port and cylinder. There is no black death anywhere. In the future the water will be drained out prior to a run.
     
  10. We drove the car to Charlotte. We had to stop several times to put more water in. After we saw the damage we decided to call it. A guy that took a liking to the car was following the whole week. He started to help us do some things at Darlington. So we put him to work. He was very excited to work on the car. When it couldn't be fixed he drove me back to Atlanta. There was supposed to be someone there to let me get my trailer out. With no way to get it out until the next morning I scooted under the fence and slept in the trailer. A hot shower ac and sleep felt good.
     
  11. DDDenny
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    That's a think'n man right there!
     
  12. Runnin shine
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    I was wondering if it could make exhibition passes like last year with no water with a fresh head gasket and o-rings. Then remembered this is a very expensive new engine so maybe not.


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  13. luckythirteenagogo
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    That sucks, but it was great watching it come alive. Have a safe trip home, and try not to get caught up in this hurricane thing.

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  14. Brand Apart
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    Wayne Gretzky said you miss 100% of the shots you don't take.
    Great meeting you in Atl and I'm sure you will be able to make this work next time. Seems like the draining the water idea should work.
     
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  15. olscrounger
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    wishing you the best!! You and Squirrel are HAMB heroes!!
     
  16. hog mtn dave
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    Good you got back to GA. Glad you had some help. There's always next year.
     
  17. Its 2am I'm a hr outside Chicago. I have had several hrs to think about the next moves with the car before the snow flies. The season around here is potentially over soon. The car will go back together this weekend minus the water. It will go to the fall out drags with some fuel changes.
    I'm leaning out the engine every pass with little effect. The pump is that big. The next move will be to pinch the port nozzles all by five. I will also lower the main jet from 135 back to 100 and add a fuel loop with a 80 jet in that set at 40lbs. The blower over drive will go from 19 over to 25 over.
    Things will happen with those changes. That's starting to give a nitro engine what it wants. There should be flames with that tune up.
     
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  18. Stogy
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    It's really interesting this complete Hotrod Racer is a machine that envelopes you but you are wired with your mind to every square inch of its function with the heart in front of the firewall the most complex part of it and with every run down the track registering performance mostly from the gut and mind synchronizing to make alterations...and here we are again seeing that expertise in making adjustments to finish off with the fire still burning...that's great...

    Does this mean you can still do street duty between ventures?...just add water...:D

    I guess it's safe to say the tracking down the strip has improved greatly...so despite some negatives there are big positives.
     
  19. blowby
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    Was the damage to the head done on the last run or on the road miles after?
     
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  20. Stogy
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    I think it was involving the nitro heated engine and hot antifreeze/water at the track caused by a blown head gasket3. Pretty incredible the surface literally melted away. He did say molten metal landed perhaps on the glass at the track during a run just this recent run.

    It also seemed there was excessive waiting during track switching as well that may have contributed to this.
     
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  21. Motor_Psycho
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    Shame about the damage cutting drag week short, all good information for another hit next year though.
     
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  22. It happened at the end of the pass at Darlington. I can't street drive it. After I get the new gaskets on I will do a leak down on it. If the gasket seals it's off to the fall out in two weeks. It might take more time to clean the car up than to fix it. It's a mess right now.
     
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  23. saltflats
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    Sorry for you misfortune Brian.
    We will see you at the Fall Out.
     
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  24. Yes. I drove last night to just outside Chicago. Grabbed a few hrs of sleep. Came home got the car unloaded and torn back apart. The new tune up is in. It should scream at the fall out.
     
  25. Woogeroo
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    Us old truck guys have a saying when it all goes bad : old trucks are fun!

    I guess you can change it up to : nitro cars are fun!

    :p

    -Woog
     
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  26. Kind of walking around the shop in a fog after a few hours of sleep. Not meeting goals I set for myself can be a big motivator to do better. So I installed the second bypass to deal with the big pump. The upper pulley was changed to drive the blower at 25 over. To do this I need a 5 inch idler pulley so one was ordered along with the smaller nozzles. The head might work as is. I just don't like putting it on if it's not 100 percent. If things should go bad they will do it in a big way. That being said I'm off to Roger's in Iowa in the morning. I hate it when the cars not right. It will be right for the fall out. 20180913_174829.jpg 20180913_180028.jpg
     
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  27. David Gersic
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  28. Stogy
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    @racer-x as naive as I am about this I will ask...You are running no water and installing a new head gasket on head with an incidental void. I suspect you will use a filler in that void area ie. silicone. Yes the steam creating water will be gone but there is still compression, boost and fuel. Will the absence of water and the new installation preparation prevent the water cool areas filling with gases and heat causing further potential problems?

    Just thinking out loud and of concern. I cannot phathom how much is going on in your mind right now...and you've been down this road many a times.

    Tough decision...have a good nights rest and thanks for sharing all the adventure without a sugar coating...
     
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  29. Runnin shine
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    While your down there put the second set of plug holes in there. I know I guy with really cool mag valve covers that are collecting dust, and it’s easier than leaning the jets out


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  30. saltflats
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    This sounds like another sanding session with the intake after getting the head fixed.
    Wish I was closer so you could tag me in. :)
     
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