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Discussion in 'The Hokey Ass Message Board' started by racer-x, Sep 19, 2015.

  1. Yes the street driving kills alot of cars. Testing is everything as you know. I tried running the blower a little too fast. The engine didnt like it. The temp started running up to 185. A quick pulley swap fot less over drive brought them back in line. The engine temp is critical to maintaining the correct clearences inside the engine. As the temp goes up the rod and main clearances increase. This puts more strain on the oiling system. The deck height also increases changing the push rod adjustment. The upper pulley may need another step down after the trailer is hooked up. Time and testing will tell.

    As a dog owner I'm sorry to hear of Jim's dog of many years passing away.
     
  2. I'll be at Elkhorn bright & early Saturday, I'll keep an eye out for you.
     
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  3. You will hear me before you see me. Looks like good weather. Looking forward to a big bar.
     
  4. ROADSTER1927
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    I will try to find you also, I will be the guy gimping with a black cane. Gary:)
     
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  5. enloe
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    Get the miles in to shake the bugs out before Drag Week.
     
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  6. That's the plan. We should arrive by 9am. The car will be parked near the s how area. We plan on hitting the swap meet first then hang out by the car.
     
  7. Runnin shine
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  8. The first leg of today's trip went perfect. It's 90 plus degrees out with high humidity. With the trailer loaded up and the trunk lid on the engine ran at a cool 165. Getting stuck at the gate in traffic it got up to 180. The last few years we fought the heat every time we drove it. That's why we started taking off the trunk lid.
    The efi tune up was unchanged from the 392. Driving it to the car show Thursday night showed it was lean. I was on the phone last night with Andy Starr from hilborn electronic sales.we discussed the tune up and decided to increase the entire fuel map 15 percent. It runs better but needs more fuel. I will increase the map by another 5 percent before we leave for the next stop. 20180804_115138.jpg 20180804_115151.jpg
     
  9. 20180804_183146.jpg Part two of the drive went even better. The extra 5 percent fuel that was added made it run better. We stopped at gusses drive in located in East troy Wi. While there we added another 5 percent fuel. Two more blown cars showed up. One was a rear engine bbc wheel stander the other a coupe running mechanically injected alchohol. The alchy coupe is owned by al McFadden. He was a nitro funny car and dragster driver. I haven't talked to him in a few years. He ran the last non hemi nitro dragster to qualify at a nhra event. He did It with a Ford shot gun engine during the early 90s. It was cool to catch up with him. The last leg of the drive was up i-43 north into Milwaukee then south down i-94 into oak creek for the show at Georgee porgies. This leg would be all free way driving. Again the car ran better still without any problems. It takes time behind the wheel to get it all sorted out. Things went great today as we get closer on our tune up. Alot has been learned in the last few days. 20180804_172130.jpg 20180804_172153.jpg
     
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  10. Tim
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    Sounds like a heck of a little drive!
     
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  11. squirrel
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    that's what I like to see...great job!
     
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  12. it was a full day for sure. I will do some more tuning this week. I feel it's ready for road kill nights in Detroit along with the dream cruise on Woodward ave.
     
  13. mcmopar
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    Glad to see it on gas and running good. I take it this was a trial run for Drag Week. In the next couple of weeks I will start on my 38, and will start a thread on here. Every time I see your car it makes me want your old motor done and in my truck, soon it will be. Good luck.
    Tony
     
  14. wrenchbender
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    Please let us know when you do there are some that follow brian that know you and will follow along or at least I will lol. Tony will you be at the H.A.M.B. Drags again this year


    Brian it sounds like you have got it figured out
     
  15. Just got back from a Sunday morning ride. I thought about the tune up all night. I started to think that I might not have changed the parameters related to the engine size. This morning I connected to the ecu and sure enough it said 392. I upped it to 498 and like magic it was a completely different car. The 2100 rpm little stumble is gone and it's much more responsive. I don't know how I forgot to change that. Maybe I have been a little busy and distracted with other things lately.
     
  16. squirrel
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    the stupid computer always does what you tell it to do, not what you want it to do... :)
     
  17. Tony it was a pre drag week run. Not only was I tuning the car but in a way tuning the trailer. We are trying some different ways we load it. These changes could have a effect on the handling going down the road. We put alot of weight in the trailer so shifting a few hundred pounds around can make a difference. I also screw the shocks tighter by 1.5 inches. If I don't the added weight of the passenger and trailer causes the body to rub the tires. It's a balancing act. I want it soft for a good ride yet it has to remain functional pulling the trailer. Drag week is not as easy as it looks. There is alot that goes into it.
     
  18. mcmopar
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    Brian every time I talk to ya I learn something, and this time to. I never even thought of the shock deal. When you get to the track do you change your shocks again for the track. Do you have to carry all of your own Nitro for drag week, or can you get it at the track? How much extra Nitro compared to last year? I have been following Drag week a little more for the last few years and it is has my interest up. I think it is a hell of a test on man and machine.
     
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  19. The shocks are readjusted for the track. We use a pair of spanner wrenches to do the job. It only takes a few minutes. A few cars use a third air shock that gets added and removed.
    We have to carry our own nitro. The tracks don't sell it. This puts us at a disadvantage because the jugs take up alot of valuable trailer space. We do use more nitro with the new engine. We figure on six gallons per pass.
    That space could be used to haul more spare parts or tools.
     
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  20. rawcjw19
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    Dumb question and I hope you never find out. But what happens if you get in an accident on the highway hauling all that nitro? It seems you have taken all the safety precautions on the track. I am sure you have thought about it. I was just curious


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  21. I don't want to find out either. the nitro has a much lower flash point than gas. to set it off there would need to be a primary explosion. im more worried about the 15 gallons of gas positioned in the trunk of my car compared to the nitro on the trailer. the nitro is carried in plastic dot approved jugs. there was a serious accident some years back. the team of al fontannini and nannini were towing their nitro funny car on the toll road heading to union grove. while stopped at a toll booth the rig was rear ended. the explosion was so big it blew up the toll booth. the teams driver was killed. I don't know of any other nitro related bad accidents.
     
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  22. rawcjw19
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    Having my gas tank in the very back of my sedan scares me too. I watch the rear view pretty close when cars are behind me. I have to say after reading your thread and seeing the few nitro cars I have. Nitro definitely strikes my curiosity. Someday I will have to try it in something. The bucket list keeps growing


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  23. Motor_Psycho
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    Really enjoyed catching up on this Brian, I lost touch of the thread around 2016 so spent a few days hauling through since then!

    Love seeing the latest progression with the big late model Hemi in there loaded up, sounds great.

    Also the technical insights and what goes on behind the scenes make for a great read. I'm just coming to the end of my altered rebuild from blown alky BBC to blown nitro billet 417 Hemi so I appreciate the work, time and dedication you've put into this. Like you I'm lucky to have some very knowledgeable and helpful guys guiding me along the way, been my dream since I was 7 years old to run a nitro altered, 23 years later it's finally happening! I won't take over your thread any more, apologies!

    Tuned in for the future, bring on drag week
     
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  24. vitamindart
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    I think every time I read this I learn something new. Thanks! saw the car at the meltdowns again. still one of my favorites!
     
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  25. That's cool. Thanks for following along. It must be hard to run a nitro car in England. Getting parts like a Donovan can't be easy or cheap. I sold a 64 Plymouth sport fury to a guy in England years ago. He ran it at Santa pod. Good luck with the nitro hemi.
     
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  26. Motor_Psycho
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    It sure isn't!!! ImTakes a lot of planning and patience, 6 week shipping time roughly, depending when the next shipment leaves, then we get stung with import duty (on sale value AND shipping cost) plus tax. If it was easy everyone would do it?

    Fortunately we're good friends with the guys who run the Havoc AA/FA (2017 CHRR winners ) and have a very similar setup to them.

    Guy called Keith Herbert? Can't be many Sport Fury's over here, lovely car.

    Thanks, it's gonna be a learning experience but I can't wait.
     
  27. lippy
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    Sounds like your getting her figured out Brian. I sold my 65 Belvedere to a guy in England too. Lippy
     
  28. I'm working on it. The efi has been the focus lately. I forwarded my tune up to fellow drag week racer Andy Starr at hilborn efi last night. This morning we went over it. A few changes were made to the tune. Some of the items I'm not familiar with and how they effect the tune. Like the voltage adjustments at the injector. Andy isn't tuning the car. He is explaining the various settings and how they work so I have a better understanding so I can tune it. He is providing opinions on how some things should be set. Like I said before I feel I'm close to the perfect tune up it just needs a little more work. This will be done driving down the road with the lap top connected to the ecu. Now that it's not so frustrating it's fun to play with.
     
  29. lippy
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    Think what it would be like on gas and mech injected going from weather change to weather change and different altitudes traveling. It would be a nitemare I bet. :confused::D
     
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  30. LM14
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    Saw this little item Monday when hauling a friends new chassis. That thing took a hit! I put one of these under my '32 after seeing yours.

    SPark

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