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Discussion in 'The Hokey Ass Message Board' started by Dave Castle, Jan 14, 2019.

  1. Dave Castle
    Joined: Oct 28, 2018
    Posts: 10

    Dave Castle

    Posted a "wanted" ad about a week ago, got 5 responses, all scams! One guy just copied pics off e-bay & said they were his, REALLY SAD !!!!!
     
  2. Oldioron
    Joined: Dec 12, 2018
    Posts: 719

    Oldioron
    Member

    It's a different world we live in.
     
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  3. upspirate
    Joined: Apr 15, 2012
    Posts: 1,909

    upspirate
    Member

    If on here report to a mod or Ryan.....helps if you are a Alliance member also
     
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  4. corncobcoupe
    Joined: May 26, 2001
    Posts: 4,542

    corncobcoupe
    SUPER MODERATOR
    Staff Member

    If they just signed up and no posts - YEP A SCAM.
    Don't also fall for the my HAMB'r friend sent me your ad - I've got the parts you want.

    NEVER send anything by Money Gram , Walmart Gram, Western Union, Postal Money Order - nothing !!!!!!

    Use Paypal - ( still a risk but most minimal ) or CASH IN PERSON.

    ALSO - if the guys who contacted you actually has a HAMB name - please forward it to us Mods to take care of.

    Thanks
     
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  5. I like to send 'em a picture of my pecker. Can't figure out a response meaning legitimate or scammer though. They just leave me alone thereafter.

    Apologies to any of you dudes actually trying to sell me parts. Maybe hit me again, after the pecker pic'. So I know. :D:D Hahaha.
     
  6. 41rodderz
    Joined: Sep 27, 2010
    Posts: 2,461

    41rodderz
    Member
    from Oregon

    From what I understand is if a credit card is tied to paypal the buyer can go through his card (charge back) and your out parts and money if your a seller. Am I wrong ?
     
  7. 41rodderz
    Joined: Sep 27, 2010
    Posts: 2,461

    41rodderz
    Member
    from Oregon

    As a buyer , do you not have certain level of safety in a postal money order ?
     
  8. stanlow69
    Joined: Feb 21, 2010
    Posts: 3,363

    stanlow69
    Member
    from red oak

    He just signed up with only 4 posts since late October. People would be leery on the other end too.
     
  9. Jimbo17
    Joined: Aug 19, 2008
    Posts: 3,479

    Jimbo17
    Member

    It might be time for me to create another decal. I will get busy working on it today.
    That's a promise.
    WE SHOOT SCAMMERS & We have shovels !!!
    Jimbo
     
  10. Barrelnose pickup
    Joined: Aug 20, 2008
    Posts: 826

    Barrelnose pickup
    ALLIANCE MEMBER

    Why not have a setup where you can’t use the classifieds to either buy or sell unless you have a certain post count or you are an alliance member?
    It would stop most of this shit in its tracks!
    IMHO as a relative newbie
     
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  11. Dave Castle
    Joined: Oct 28, 2018
    Posts: 10

    Dave Castle

    However with a little effort, you would see he is a senior member of Ford Barn !
     
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  12. stanlow69
    Joined: Feb 21, 2010
    Posts: 3,363

    stanlow69
    Member
    from red oak

    He who, you. And with a Studebaker as your avatar, who would of thought. Sorry, the only sight I go on is the HAMB. Have a friend who makes purchases off the internet as well. Less than 5 a year. I`m not to computer friendly. Still have a flip phone.
     
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  13. blowby
    Joined: Dec 27, 2012
    Posts: 5,828

    blowby
    Member
    from Nicasio Ca

    Careful, that didn't work out too well for Bret Favre. :D
     
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  14. Sky Six
    Joined: Mar 15, 2018
    Posts: 1,140

    Sky Six
    Member
    from Arizona

    I have a 51 pick up for sale on EBAY (OT, billet wheels) and have received a half dozen obvious scam messages. It seems like "let the buyer beware" needs to be changed to "let the seller beware". Fortunately, I think the HAMB has some good safeguards in place but we still all need to be vigilant.
     
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  15. luckythirteenagogo
    Joined: Dec 28, 2012
    Posts: 1,219

    luckythirteenagogo
    Member
    from Apex, NC

    I'm with you on this one Ricky. If you spend so much time on Ford Barn, advertise there.
    Yeah, it sucks we live in a society where it's hard to find honest people to buy and sell with. On the other hand, if no one on here knows you, and your only activity on here is in the ads, you look like someone looking for a quick buck.
    I bet if a senior member of this site were to create an account on Ford Barn and only posted ads, he would get the same response.
    Spend some time here and get the feel of the place. Then put out some feelers, and I bet you'll get some honest responses.

    Sent from my SM-G960U using The H.A.M.B. mobile app
     
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  16. Flathead Dave
    Joined: Mar 21, 2014
    Posts: 2,128

    Flathead Dave
    ALLIANCE MEMBER
    from So. Cal.

    Also as a buyer. Happened to me in 2010.

    Sent from my SM-G930T using The H.A.M.B. mobile app
     
  17. Mr48chev
    Joined: Dec 28, 2007
    Posts: 25,018

    Mr48chev
    ALLIANCE MEMBER

    It's Just beware period. It's pretty easy to ask a potential seller to send you photos with the front page of the current local paper in the photo with the item though.
    From talking to people who spot my HAMB T shirt at swap meets or events when I wear one I'd say that there probably just as many people who only log on to check the classifieds to buy or sell as there are regular active members here on the board. I've had more than one say that they never actually even check the board but search the classifieds on a regular basis.
     
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  18. XXL__
    Joined: Dec 28, 2009
    Posts: 1,661

    XXL__
    Member

    USE THE BUILT-IN FEEDBACK SYSTEM. Ryan and company have installed tools to give you some confidence in who you are dealing,with. Click on any user's profile, click Trading Stats. You can see who has been buying and selling with whom... gives some measure of confidence that you are dealing with a real person.
     
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  19. saltflats
    Joined: Aug 14, 2007
    Posts: 9,285

    saltflats
    Member
    from Missouri

    A want add is like tossing your line with bait in the water, you better be ready for anything.
     
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  20. Dave Castle
    Joined: Oct 28, 2018
    Posts: 10

    Dave Castle

    "Spend some time here and get the feel of the place. Then put out some feelers, and I bet you'll get some honest responses." So if I read this quote correctly, it translates to, "We only deal honestly with long term members?" Sorry that is not how I was raised !!
    Have a lovely day !!
     
  21. 19Eddy30
    Joined: Mar 27, 2011
    Posts: 878

    19Eddy30
    Member
    from VA

    Just a few mouths ago , I sold 5 original & restored 1932 ford wheels & new tires & deliverd to a older gentleman in South Carolina , all most Ga, ( 1/4 of the value ) all communication was done through the HAMB @ first then threw text . he was very pleased with the restoration and the quality of the wheels ,. I asked him to make sure to leave a positive feedback on the HAMB for the transaction and sale , he did not do so . Most only leave a feed back if theres a promblem ,Not for a GOOD Transaction/ Dealing !!
     
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  22. XXL__
    Joined: Dec 28, 2009
    Posts: 1,661

    XXL__
    Member

    All you can do is ask. I have quite a bit of feedback, but still, only about 30% of the people I deal with leave any. We're mostly old coots on this board, and many don't have much interest or patience in "computer stuff." But, of course, the feedback tool isn't any good if people don't use it.

    I recommend--

    Point them to your feedback profile while discussing a deal (assuming you have ANY feedback).

    During the deal (ie, after the seller ships), remind the other party to leave feedback after they get their goods and check them out. I do this in a message to buyer that lets them know the package has been shipped, provides them tracking numbers, and lets them know how to leave feedback. Buyers-- you have the ability to initiate this conversation as well. Don't be shy. I want to know you're not a flaky buyer too.

    Also... don't leave neutral or negative feedback because you had buyer's remorse or without trying to resolve any issue privately. You're trashing another board member for the whole world to see. If you want 24x7 customer service, free returns, and white glove treatment, know that costs money. If you want a $500 part and only want to pay $250, you may want to reset your own expectations.

    Follow the feedback. When someone leaves feedback, always check the OTHER feedback they've left. You can quickly ID the jerks who can't ever be pleased, as well as the folks who are easy to deal with.

    Don't "feedback" a product review (ie, this impact wrench doesn't have enough torque to remove my lug nuts) unless the seller actually MANUFACTURED the product and/or provided deceptive information prior to purchase.

    Sellers, provide as much info about your item as possible. Post large, quality photos, including pics that reveal damage. Answer questions unambiguously. "I don't know" is better than making something up, but pointing them to a legitimate information source is even better.

    Finally... caveat emptor.
     
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  23. funny...I have a little OT a 1966 on the bay....and get a message thru my personal computer - that really looks like scam -asking how much it would be to ship it to XYZ.....my ad says local pick up - went to my Ebay site and just said - no I don't....hope I'm protected from someone trying to get in to my computer....
     
  24. The37Kid
    Joined: Apr 30, 2004
    Posts: 25,580

    The37Kid
    Member

    I think it took me a year or so before I felt right about using the classifieds here on the HAMB. They are FREE, you should do something, provide a few answers, help someone, build up some type of confidence with the HAMB Family, this isn't the Ford Barn. I need to renew my Alliance membership. Bob
     
  25. I don't think you read the quote correctly or maybe you did not understand what was said. It's also entirely possible that your got your feelings hurt and took your football and went home.

    People whom are looking to be offended are rarely disappointed.
     
  26. The37Kid
    Joined: Apr 30, 2004
    Posts: 25,580

    The37Kid
    Member


    Well said.

    Bob
     
  27. Dave Castle
    Joined: Oct 28, 2018
    Posts: 10

    Dave Castle

    I will stand by my original statement, " REALLY SAD ", I'm out !
     
  28. OK, Dave, maybe this will help a little. Everyone is (or should be) aware of online scamers. Parts wanted ads are notorious for attracting scammers. Often these suspected scammers search "wanted" items and miraculously just happen to have that part! What a coincidence.

    Next, these suspected scammers join the group that has the "wanted" part listed. So now you have a brand new person offering a part to the person usually at a great discount. And then suddenly the money goes away as the scammer cashes the Western Union chit or draws the money out of his brand new PayPal account.

    Can this happen when the part is offered by a person that has been on said list for years and has a high post count and a history of completed satisfactory sales? I guess it could happen but it is very unlikely. Now consider the difference between that old guy and the new guy. That is what was meant by being around a while and it does work both ways. New folks are a little suspect when they are new and only participate in the buy/wanted portions of this board.

    If I were you, I would try it again without looking for a problem. Yes, scammers are out there and you should be aware of how they operate. Can I guarantee a safe and honest transaction from all these 1000's of folks? Nope, but I think the vast majority are honest folks. Someone on here has a signature line something like "Trust everyone but brand your cattle". There you go!
     
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  29. chubbie
    Joined: Jan 14, 2009
    Posts: 2,260

    chubbie
    Member

    I sold a part a few weeks ago to a guy that joined the HAMB just to buy my part. He googled for the used part and found the HAMB. I was cautious and so was he. Imagine finding the HAMB when you are starting a hotrod build.
     
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  30. stanlow69
    Joined: Feb 21, 2010
    Posts: 3,363

    stanlow69
    Member
    from red oak

    @Rocky
     
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