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Ram Rod Shifter info needed

Discussion in 'The Hokey Ass Message Board' started by fitzee, Oct 17, 2009.

  1. fitzee
    Joined: Feb 26, 2003
    Posts: 2,862


    Just picked up a 1970 top loader 4 speed and it came with a interesting looking shifter.I did a search on ebay and found one just like it.It is a Hurst Vertigate shifter or a "Ram rod shifter"as they called it. It has the T handle for putting it in first gear and another shifter for putting it in reverse.What year did these shifters come out and were they any good?

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  2. We are putting one in the "In-Bomber" '57 Chevy. They came out in either 1969 or 1970 as I recall just as Mr. Gasket came out with the V-Gate. For some reason it never really caught on like Mr. gasket's version and it was only made for a few years. Pull the lever up and shift forward into 1st, pull back into 2nd and let go of the lever, then forward into 3rd and back again into 4th. Personally I think these are cooler than the V-Gate since it's Hurst and they weren't made for long.
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    from Holly

    I had one in my big block Nova back in 70. They were an excellent shifter. I think the reason they didn't sell was the Mr. Gasket version was a great deal cheaper in cost. Tho not even close to the Hurst quality.

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  4. chopt55bc
    Joined: May 10, 2008
    Posts: 886


    very cool shifter! had one in a 55 chevy. no missin gears with that thing!

  5. fitzee
    Joined: Feb 26, 2003
    Posts: 2,862


    Seems like these shifters were a chevy thing.I notice that the mount on mine is homemade,after all mine is on a Ford toploader. Did they make them for Fords?
  6. 67 W-30
    Joined: Aug 18, 2009
    Posts: 349

    67 W-30
    from N.E. Ohio

    Yes. Made for Fords too
  7. southcross2631
    Joined: Jan 20, 2013
    Posts: 4,414


    I have one on my Liberty prepped Toploader crashbox. Sorry for the bad picture. The previous owner made shift rods out of tubing for the forward gears. Must have had some deflection. DSCF3454.JPG
  8. chevy57dude
    Joined: Dec 10, 2007
    Posts: 6,476


    To answer the OP, they work great!
    Pull up the T for first, shifting fast into second does not require holding it up. So a true straight line shifter while racing.
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  9. Kan Kustom
    Joined: Jul 20, 2009
    Posts: 2,676

    Kan Kustom

    Hurst, Mr. Gasket, same quality. I like the Mr. Gasket for what I assume most others liked back then. Mr. Gasket has an aluminum brass knuckle type pull handle and the Hurst has a T type pull handle. The Mr. Gasket just had a more aggressive look. I have three of them and they are my favorite of any shifter.
  10. DDDenny
    Joined: Feb 6, 2015
    Posts: 15,195

    from oregon

    About 1971/72 a friend of mine put a Mr. Gasket version in his 66 hemi Belvedere sedan S/S drag car, I recall it being a little tempermental to get adjusted at first.
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  11. chevy57dude
    Joined: Dec 10, 2007
    Posts: 6,476


    Driving on the street, the reverse disengagement feature helps. Without having to touch the reverse stick, pull the trigger and it pops into neutral. Then simply push forward for first.
  12. alwaysamopar
    Joined: Oct 2, 2015
    Posts: 115


    The ramrod and the mr gasket version are different animals. I prefer the ramrod over the Mr gasket. Same in line principle though. Iv had this same shifter on a T10...a saginaw..and now this A833. Same shifter for all makes other than the mounting bracket and rods. .and hey we should all be able to make those. Even if I didn't have any more 4 speeds..this would be hanging up in the shop. Love these shifters.

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  13. alwaysamopar
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  14. woodsnwater
    Joined: Apr 4, 2016
    Posts: 490

    from North Al.

    I have one set up for a top loader. It's a cool wall hanger right now.
  15. seb fontana
    Joined: Sep 1, 2005
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    seb fontana
    from ct

    A friend had a Hurst Ram Rod in his F'lane, FBB and Top Loader trans...I used to drive it occasionally and even on the street with easy driving it worked great...
  16. lostone
    Joined: Oct 13, 2013
    Posts: 1,747

    from kansas

    Had Mr.gasket in my 66 GTO on a m22 Muncie, from what I remember it was hard on synchronizers, seems I could shift faster than the trans was ready for...

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