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Discussion in 'The Hokey Ass Message Board' started by 1930artdeco, Nov 25, 2021.

  1. 1930artdeco
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    I just picked up a T & C radio for my 57 wagon (it is a 58 radio judging by the knobs). Any how it will need a total resto before it works. I know where to get the plastic redone but who restores these radios? Any links, POC's?

    Thanks,

    Mike
     
  2. chevy57dude
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    @radiobill here on the HAMB may be able to help.
     
  3. donsz
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    Unless you want an original radio, you might consider a radio from Custom Auto Sound. They look like the original on the outside, but use modern technology. They also have features like blue tooth. I'm guessing the cost would be in the price spectrum of a refurb. I had a couple of refurb radios, the sensitivity of my Custom Auto Sound replica is way better, plus I get FM (the original in the truck was AM only). Also, while they usually install a solid-state multi-vibrator, tubes in a refurb can fail more readily then solid-state/microprocessor circuitry.
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  4. Truck64
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    A good restoration will have excellent sensitivity compared to modern solid state radios, though they will not compare as well in selectivity. The tubes are rugged, don't worry about those. A restoration may not be what he wants, sometimes that word isn't used in the way intended?
     

  5. rockable
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    Put that one in for looks and install a Custom Autosound Secret Audio system. I have them in all of my cars and love them. I have an iPod loaded up with in excess of 10k songs, so when I hit the road I can listen to anything I want to. You might use your phone for the same.
     
  6. AccurateMike
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    And then you can do an LS swap too....
    Traditional can mean different things to different people. I can see why you might want to get the tubes working again. Mike
     
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    57 what?. . . . . . . Probably a Dodge.. it’s always a Dodge..
     
  8. 1930artdeco
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    I tend to be an 'originalist (is that a word?)' so a full resto is in order at some point. I love the sound of tubes and will try and get a USB port installed so that we can use our phone and some blue tooth type speakers. The radio is AM/FM from the factory-now how good the FM side is I don't know as it was early on in the FM band tech wise. The rebuild won't be for another year as I have floor pans, glass, wiring and power train stuffing ahead of it. This was one of the few options ordered with the car so back in it goes.

    Thanks,

    Mike
     
  9. 1930artdeco
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    Jimmy six-sorry I should add to my tag line that it is a Ford Country Sedan 6 passenger wagon.

    Mike
     
  10. egads
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    57 Ford factory AM/FM ?
     
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  12. rockable
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    That's cool. I used to restore tube amps. Most of the time, dried out capacitors were the biggest problems. Hemmings has ads for people who specialize in radio restorations. Good luck!
     
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  13. dana barlow
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    Having one that looks like factory is fine,but we don't live in a world that plays the music that goes with the car,or even with your own likes I think.=OK to look like the factory when new,but total of todays programing sucks on the radio right now. So get some new gutts in it,so that it's not just filling the hole,n enjoy some older tunes.
     
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  14. Truck64
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    Factory radio with FM in the 1950s?
     
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  15. PhilA
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    That's an interesting set- early hybrid of solid state and tube, from before the transistors were good enough to be used in the front end of the radio.
    It's got a few awkward parts to find if they're bad- but overall not too bad. FM by today's standards will be pretty abysmal. A brief glance at the schematic and retrofitting bluetooth would not be too hard to it which opens up streaming to the device but retaining the original functionality (did that to my radio and it works well).

    Go pop the question over at the Antique Radio Forum some very helpful folks over there, who could either take it on or recommend service.

    Phil
     
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  16. 51 mercules
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    My friend had radio done at Doller's Radio Service several years ago and was happy with them.
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  17. Elcohaulic
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    Just have your electronics tech install a mini jack to the radios AM tuner input. Then put a three-way toggle switch with two 1K resisters for each stereo channel in the back of the radio so you can switch from AM to ACC.
    This is what I have. I'm using the Delco radio as a head unit. The sound is amazing. I use an I-pod, I get all my music on You Tube for free..

    I put a small Blaupunkt amp to take the work off the old Delco radios amp. Then I put one 8" and one 6x9 two way for nice, rich Hi Fidelity sound..

    Those factory AM radios really have a beautiful sound to them.. I tried a brand new Pioneer AM/FM radio. It could come near the sound of the AM Delco...
     
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  18. PhilA
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    Some of them do! Normally the loudspeaker is the weak point. The amp in this radio looks to be set up class AB1 which is standard for a transistor output stage.
    I had my old Delco sitting on my bench for a few days playing, connected to one of my big cabinet speakers from the living room (a high sensitivity Sansui) and the audio output is most excellent! Figures, given that it's basically the same design as used by Fender in their guitar amps...

    That output stage, if connected to an external source should sound pretty good, especially with your favorite playlist. If you have a modern playback device, set the EQ to kill the bass under 500Hz and treble above 5000Hz else you'll overload the amp and speaker if you try turn it up.

    Phil
     

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