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Customs R&C, Wineland, & Shoebox Fords

Discussion in 'The Hokey Ass Message Board' started by Ryan, Mar 19, 2009.

  1. Ryan
    Joined: Jan 2, 1995
    Posts: 17,535

    from Austin, TX
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    Last edited: Mar 19, 2009
  2. I have this very copy at arms reach (thanks to Silva), A must for a SBF fan, though some of the ideas are a little dreamy for my taste, a consemate reference for sure. I did not know we had lost Lynn recently, a fitting tribute indeed.
    Last edited: Mar 19, 2009
  3. Danimal
    Joined: Apr 23, 2006
    Posts: 4,104


    I'm not a big SBF fan but you know, you can probably find EVERYTHING in that issue to get the juices flowing.

    Thanks for the history lesson.
  4. Mudslinger
    Joined: Aug 3, 2005
    Posts: 1,946


    Got it. Thats a must have for the shoebox owners especially for the younger guys coming along.
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  5. Stu
    Joined: Mar 5, 2001
    Posts: 919


    I found a 49 2dr sedan the other day,I think I may have to go look at it
  6. flathead fred
    Joined: Jul 18, 2006
    Posts: 298

    flathead fred

    My god I have to have that magazine. I have only a few dozen of the little mags, and this is not one of them. I loooooove shoeboxes!!!
  7. RAY With
    Joined: Mar 15, 2009
    Posts: 3,132

    RAY With

    The 49 ford was my first car to hot rod. With the purchase of aluminum heads,2 carb intake and some headers I was well on my way. In 50 or 51 I did myfirst transplant using a cadillac OHV. It was awesome in comparison to the flatty. In the 50's the choice was cadillac-Olds and red ram hemi. All of our hotrods back then were std. transmission and at that time my choice was a Lasalle. Ansen provided most of the adapters back then which made transplants feasible.I still have a place in the old heart for the shoe box.
  8. I have that issue! A lot of the same grill and taillight treatments have been done to death on the 49-51 Ford and Mercs (and the ebay prices for some of those ppoular parts reflect it), posting those pages may help somebody think outside the shoebox (get it, shoe-box?!?!? I crack myself up) and try something different.
  9. ThunderRoad Garage
    Joined: Jun 8, 2007
    Posts: 172

    ThunderRoad Garage
    from missouri

    man those cats werent afraid to try anything. I love it. some of them go a little too far. but hey, someones got to try it for the first time. i absolutely love most of the trim swaps.
  10. 49ratfink
    Joined: Feb 8, 2004
    Posts: 16,056

    from California

    I'd have thought there would have been more chop tops in an article like that.

    anybody know if that Bailon hardtop still at the Oakland Museum??
  11. jerseymike
    Joined: Sep 25, 2008
    Posts: 680


    boy it must have been great building cars back then when everything was available at the dealer or local junk yard. your options would be unlimited!
  12. Jaker
    Joined: Jan 23, 2003
    Posts: 868


    awesome post, thanks!

    I think Paul Richard's (no relation) convert on the top of page 33 RULES

    the side trim (54 buick wagon?) looks perfect
  13. froghawk
    Joined: May 9, 2008
    Posts: 800


    Some great ideas there! That club coupe with the radiused rear wheel well and the '54 Buick side trim is a natural!
  14. silverdome
    Joined: Aug 23, 2007
    Posts: 425


    Just like a cardboard shoebox, it looks like you can make anything out of these cars.
  15. James Boys
    Joined: May 13, 2006
    Posts: 174

    James Boys
    from London ONT

    There was a thread posted a few days ago asking how many Shoeboxes were chopped when they were customized. I think this here answers that question. I've always loved the 49, and 50 shoes, never did care for the 51s really, didn't like the double bullet and the way the dash swooped down.

    Anyways, I'll have to put this issue on the list of mags to look for at the swaps. Thanks Ryan!
  16. Cincinnati Slim
    Joined: Jun 26, 2007
    Posts: 260

    Cincinnati Slim
    from Cincy, OH

    I'll also be looking for this one at the swap meets.

    Car Craft had a pictorial of shoeboxes also. I don't have it hear right now, but I think it is the one with Tommy Ivo's T on the cover.
  17. ford51
    Joined: Feb 6, 2007
    Posts: 183

    from sweden

    Somebody know anything about the cars in the magazine where they are to day?
  18. Evel
    Joined: Jun 25, 2002
    Posts: 9,022

    1. 60s Show Rods

    Allot of those pictures were shot by Mr. Barris,,
  19. Thanks for putting this together, really brings back some memories of late 50's R&C - Lynn Wineland's articles were a big influence on me and helped push me to become a car designer. Wish I had saved some of the magazines.
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    from SoCal...

    awsome i gotta get that issue now
  21. 231ramona
    Joined: Feb 7, 2007
    Posts: 274


    I just posted a couple of weeks ago concerning an old shoebox custom I had in the late 70s. I am certain it was one of the cars in this magazine. There is a rear tail light shot of one with canted Studebaker lights. It was built by Gene Winfield for a lady (can't remember her name). My original post is
    This is another shot of the car in its original design.

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  22. gtnrkix
    Joined: Jan 29, 2005
    Posts: 697


    Thanks for the pics, Ryan! Gotta have that issue. One just ended on E**y for $4.00 and just 2 bucks shipping. Oh well, swap meet season is close.
  23. 60'shotrod
    Joined: Nov 18, 2007
    Posts: 2,913


    I LOVE the interiors inparticular!
  24. autobilly
    Joined: May 23, 2007
    Posts: 3,080


    I'm diggin' the "Ute" on page 29!
  25. barfers
    Joined: Feb 11, 2007
    Posts: 382

    from Florida

    very good post thanks!
  26. One of my favorites!! It's in the nightstand drawer.
    Ideas for the '49 club coupe that rests on the other side of my bedroom wall.

    Nice Journal Ryan!! Thanks
  27. Davester
    Joined: Aug 6, 2002
    Posts: 133

    from PDX

    Another good one to get is the 1956 Nov. issue of Rod and Custom. Lots of great 49-51 in there.


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  28. hombres ruin
    Joined: Nov 21, 2006
    Posts: 3,222

    hombres ruin

    Great article,I own a 50 shoebox and i cant understand why people really mess with the grill and tail lights,to me they are pure custom from the factory.Some of the grill workings on the article didnt add anything to the style of the shoebox but took away from it.In custom car building you can go to far on a grill working it so hard that you end up making the front end look like some weird fish thing.Less is more,but i respect the history and the style,just my observation.

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