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Projects QUICK CHANGE for a Model A trans: o/d 3 speed Engine: Packard 327 close to 200hp

Discussion in 'Traditional Hot Rods' started by Wildcat of Norway, Feb 9, 2018.

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  1. Wildcat of Norway
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    have a 1929 Ford roadster pickup that I am putting in a Packard inline 8 with an o/d transmition and I am wondering what kind of quick change rear-end I should choose. ?
     
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  3. Ebbsspeed
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    It really doesn't matter which quickchange you choose. 200HP likely won't break any of them. Are you stretching the frame to get a straight 8 wedged in between the cab and radiator?
     
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  4. brigrat
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    I find some of you guy's on the other side of the pond very crafty, do a search on how to convert a Ford Banjoe rear into a QC.......................................
    If your not into all that work look up Dick Spadaro QC, or PM Frames here on the HAMB.
     
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  5. Wildcat of Norway
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    So most quickchange should handle 200hp and 350ib-ft?
    I have not decided yet, seeing that the rules in my country is very strict about modifying the frame.
     
  6. Wildcat of Norway
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    dick spadaro quickchange kit not for high HP so 200hp too much
     
  7. brigrat
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    I don't consider 200 as high HP, and your not going to have that much vehicle weight or much rubber to the road. JMO
     
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  8. Wildcat of Norway
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    But wat ib-ft do You Think is Max for that rear end if i choose to use rest of a 40 Ford rear end with that setup on Dick spadaro
     
  9. brigrat
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    If it bothers you install 9" Ford axles and bearing ends...............................
     
  10. weemark
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    you don't need to modify the frame to fit a quick change on a 29.

    contact Bruce, @GearheadsQCE he might have something that would interest you and would be fine behind 200hp.

    I know you have mentioned 200hp however you seem to be putting that through a model A gearbox - theres no way that gearbox is going to see 200hp and last. I don't think the quick change will be the weak link in your drive train.
     
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  11. brigrat
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    I was hoping he was referring to extending front frame for an inline 8...............................
     
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  12. Wildcat of Norway
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    yes i was I8 3 speed O/D
     
  13. Wildcat of Norway
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    no I8 3 speed O/D packard in a 29 model A
     
  14. GearheadsQCE
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    weemark is right.

    The weak link isn't going to be the QC.

    I have options for you. Contact me via 'conversations' if you are interested.

    Bruce
     
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  15. brigrat
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    As I read it he's NOT running a Ford "A" box....................................................
    I should have also mentioned Bruce above as a QC guru!
     
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  16. Wildcat of Norway
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    so most QC will handel 200hp and 350 ib-ft
     
  17. GearheadsQCE
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    Yes, the V8 sized rear ends will handle 200 HP and 350 lb/ft torque nicely. Even the Model A (Halibrand H101) could live if not beat on. Horsepower is not the issue. Torque and traction are the limiting factors. Torque only matters if you have enough traction to find the weak link.

    My suggestion is to upgrade the axles to push in style.
    There are a ton of people on here that will tell you that the original tapered, keyed axles with the integral side gears are perfectly fine. I have worked with them enough that I wouldn't mind if I never saw another one. EVER!

    Brigrat, My feelings were hurt that you didn't mention me. But you caught something I didn't.

    Wildcat, What transmission are you planning to use? You said 3 speed with overdrive, but didn't say which one. Is it Packard? That might make me change my mind about the weak link. Also, are you planning to run a torque tube or open drive shaft?

    As I said in our private conversation; budget, how traditional you want to be, and how much you want to do yourself will determine what QC will work for you.
     
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  18. brigrat
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    It was more of laziness on my part, I thought of you when I was writing BUT didn't take the time to look up your HAMB handle and get it rite. From now on you will be known by me as QCBruce a lot easier to remember! I just gave you a "like" don't confuse it with Valentines Day coming up!
     
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  19. GearheadsQCE
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    That's not what you said last night!
     
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  20. Wildcat of Norway
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    i can do the work my self. yes its a packard 3 speed with a borg warner O/D and am tinking open drive shaft
     
  21. Wildcat of Norway
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    i have 40 ford brakes on the rear end i have now i like to reuse dose
     
  22. Wildcat of Norway
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  23. Wildcat of Norway
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    ?
     
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  24. GearheadsQCE
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    Brigrat, that was for you!
     
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  25. brigrat
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    I got it, even had a rebuttal, but figured the OP was confused enough as it is! Hope he PM's you and gets all his questions answered so he can get on the road.......................................
     
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