The Jalopy Journal
Discussion in 'Traditional Hot Rods' started by gimpyshotrods, Jan 16, 2019.
Let's start some new jargon.
had a girlfriend once.......could out drink most......her nick name was kinda like that........
It will always be Willys (Willeaze) for me also...but...I have heard recordings of ads, and radio broadcasts, in the late 40's and early 50's and, sorry to say...they said Willis !!!
We referred to the KC 135 refueling aircraft as tankers in the Air Force.
Well I'm 72, started reading about land speed racing when I was 12 and it was always belly tank or belly tank lakester. The old photo shows that someone did call theirs a belly tanker and even though that would be pretty well correct in that the tanker meant vehicle rather than just the tank sitting on a pallet. Have to admit that a "tanker" when referring to a car has always meant a southern booze runner or one of that handful of Corvettes though.
On the Dizzy thing while that bugs me and I don't remember it for more than ten years back it does have an honest origin.
What bugs the shit out of me is the guys saying they have a Carby. I figure that might be a cutsie term coined by guys who grew up with FI and now are trying to work on carburetors. Unless it is another Oz/NZ colloquialism that is now just showing up because of the net.
Tanker; large diesel truck towing very large liquid tanks (1 or 2) to deliver said liquid to customers, also known as tanker trucks. Tanker; refueling aircraft such as KC97, KC130, KC135, or KC10. Tanker; crew member on a military tank. A surplus aircraft disposable fueltank known as "drop tank". Used by Bill Burke and subsequently others and modified to run as streamlined open wheel race cars with various displacement engines for different classes of land speed racing. Know in the sport as tanks or lakesters,PERIOD!!!!!!!!!!!!! Some DUMB ASS gets the idea to reinvent the term. Like s pound sign (#) suddenly becomes a hash tag. Morons trying to be clever and cutesy. Tanks and lakesters they are and tanks and lakesters they shall remain !
Mr48chev got it right in his last line , I am 73 and have always said dizzy & carby and lots of other purely Oz / NZ terms ....
Here's one for those who were there...when I got back into Willys in the late 70's...(had my first Willys from 1960 to 1969, I was heading to the east coast and as I got to Toledo, I wanted to see the Willys factory. I thought perhaps they might have memoribillia of those cars of the '30's, perhaps even a factory built car to look at. What a dissapointment.
They had very little from that era, and the picture below shows only a few pictures of our much sought after pre-war Willys. I was also surprised that they didn't have more on the Military Jeep...not much there either. There were however some neat road signs on the freeways and roads around the factort...Willys avenue, Willys boulevard, etc.
Probably the most common term was lakester
Language is a fluid thing, always evolving. We don't speak or write Shakespeare's English anymore. If enough booger eaters flock together to hack a particular word, that word is at risk to someday soon show up in the dictionary with the new meaning. Sometimes these hacked words are cute as a box of speckled puppies so everyone likes it. Case in point, though, sometimes it irritates the hell out of a lot of other folks.
There's something that irks me that I'd like to use as an analogy. We are becoming surrounded with a generation of monkey see-monkey do table manners. A bunch of classless Hollywood types want to let everybody know that they are world travelers who have been to Europe where unwashed peasants hold their fork upside down in their left hand while they use a knife in their right hand to push their food onto the fork. Monkey see-monkey do. Emily Post is rolling over in her grave. So we have a lot of weak minded, copy monkeys, though they have never been an unwashed peasant nor seen one over there in Europe, they want to be like the cool Hollywood kids. Monkey see-monkey do to the 10th power.
If you recognize yourself or somebody you know, yea, it could be I'm talking about you.
When somebody says willis all I think of is
Watcha talkin bout !
Hey captian, after a day of fighting your carby do you throw a steak on the barbi?
Dead right DDD but I must add Aussies Dont drink Fosters even tho movies always show it , its snakes piss !!
Well, I am a New England cracker redneck, who grew up, shoeless, on a goat farm.
Not quite European peasant, but the house was on large rocks, instead of a foundation .
It is kind of like how nitrous became nos after the Fast and Furious thing came out. lol Larry
I stand corrected. Belly tanks was the most common
I would guess it probably happened when the company NOS started selling nitrous systems in the 70's.
Don't know about that.
But my motto has always been....
I am of the age to pass along sage advice but in South Carolina we didn't have land speed racing using drop tanks and I may have been guilty of using the "Tanker" terminology at one time or another, after reading this post I will reframe from passing along misinformation in the future. HRP
I'm 70, back in the day where I come from, the term "tanker" meant a over stuffed nylon jacket!
As krusty stated,the only"tanker"references that I have heard was to military personel who operated military tanks.As was one of my cousins who served in WW2 in Shermans in the European theatre.
Good luck.Have fun.Be safe.
"Rims" or worse yet, "Rimz" is my pet peeve
Let's leave them there. Seems funny to me "boot and bonnet" are left but dizzy, carby, tanker, etc seem to tag along....it's right up there with "spot on" what at ever the f--k that means.
I'll stop saying, "spot on" straight away
....................Have a Snickers. You're not yourself when you're hungry.
I'd seen those Fosters commercials so thought I would try it, bought a big can of the stuff.
You're right, I ended up putting it in a big pot of chili I was making, kind of like cooking with cheap wine.
Many years ago a friend of mine went to Oz to crew on a race boat they had built an engine for, I said to him I bet you drank a bunch of Fosters and he said, OH NO it was Tooheys and a lot of it.
Tanker Jackets, yes had to have one from the war surplus store, especially if you couldn't afford a "Blue Suede Jacket", big at my high school 1953 to 59
Belly Tank was the word.
In the fire service , up here anyway a tanker is a plane that carries water to drop on fires....an air tanker. The trucks with the big tank on back that carry water to a fire is called a tender.
Ok I'm 72 been to B-vill ( let's get that into this pissing contest) 7 times or so and don't ever remember anybody calling a lakster built out of a drop tank called a tanker. It was always a belly tank.
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