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Discussion in 'The Hokey Ass Message Board' started by Ned Ludd, Sep 13, 2020.

  1. Ned Ludd
    Joined: May 15, 2009
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    Ned Ludd

    Could I get some gut reactions to the proportions of this?
    1929 Duesenberg J edited.jpg
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  2. Maybe the photograph, but from the doors rearward it seems to shrink.
  3. 34Phil
    Joined: Sep 12, 2016
    Posts: 226


    The top of the hood should be lowered to door sill and top is too short, would look better if door was lengthened. If hood dropped then body line needs dropping, too.
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  4. Just drop the front enough to level or slightly more and the hood will just slope forward.
    Get rid of the rack on the back. Move the bumpers closer to the body, take the top off.
    Then drive the wheels of it! It's a Duesenberg!
  5. My gut tells me its perfect
  6. denis4x4
    Joined: Apr 23, 2005
    Posts: 3,552

    from Colorado

    The spare tire is a distraction. Otherwise, it's a home run.
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    Joined: Dec 14, 2009
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    I would loose the luggage rack and drop the top down. As in what is can do ! Not a chop .

    Other then that I think it’s snazzy !
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  8. thintin
    Joined: Mar 24, 2006
    Posts: 223


    too chicago - untouchables era gangsterish looking from the door forward.
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    Stupid question maybe
    What is it ?

    please don’t say it’s a dodge :D
  10. blowby
    Joined: Dec 27, 2012
    Posts: 6,873

    from Nicasio Ca

    Duesenberg. or not...
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  11. A Boner
    Joined: Dec 25, 2004
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    A Boner

    Proportions are ok...just needs a dropped axle. It’s a little nose high!
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  12. Barn Hunter
    Joined: Feb 15, 2012
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    Barn Hunter

    Proportions.....Cut it at the windshield, straight down looks very heavy in the front, lighter in back. Almost like 2 different cars grafted together. Of course at this time and years to follow, designers were at the top of their game. Doesn't mean we can't do some virtual tweaking.
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  13. It looks great. It obviously has a bigger engine.
  14. Hnstray
    Joined: Aug 23, 2009
    Posts: 11,585

    from Quincy, IL

    Totally exact thoughts too upon first viewing.

  15. 19Fordy
    Joined: May 17, 2003
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    34 Phil got it right.
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  16. ClarkH
    Joined: Jul 21, 2010
    Posts: 951


    The camera lense is at hubcap height, and I'm thinking the angle accentuates the heavy front and door/hood propotions. Regardless, they don't bother me. I like the look of big long hood and a back that dops off (the T-hood on my speedster was replaced with a La Salle hood, so I'm biased :D).

    Agree on the luggage rack. The kind of doo-dad restorers love. I'd like to think that car's original owner could afford to have his people send the luggage ahead.
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  17. The hood is higher for reasons. The choices seem to be: remove the reasons to lower the hood (shrink the front), enlarge the rest, or leave it alone. I suspect the rest wasn't enlarged because it was meant to be a smaller car with a bigger engine. A sporty runabout, if you will.
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  18. oldandkrusty
    Joined: Oct 8, 2002
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    It's a Duesenberg, therefore it is PERFECT! Can you tell, I'm a bit prejudiced...
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  19. belair
    Joined: Jul 10, 2006
    Posts: 8,533


    Proportions are ok, but the hood/cowl is a little too high, as has been said. It is just cluttered at rhe front and especially the rear. Still a beauty.
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  21. jnaki
    Joined: Jan 1, 2015
    Posts: 4,894




    We are all accustomed to seeing smaller front ends from the cowl forward. Mainly because this large roadster is not a “traditional hot rod” in that sense. Whatever traditional means to the HAMB period Hot rod enthusiasts. Model Ts, Model As, 32 fords and all of the lineage from that time period to 1965. This is a European style roadster and as such not HAMB traditional.

    Plus, since we all like the US factory old cars, the front end looks like a huge barn attached to a bunch of different 33-34 Ford/Chevy roadsters to house a big v-12 or some other monster of a motor. It has been said that the 32 grille was a wind stopper as it was large and upright. This roadster is bigger and should block more wind. But, in the European style roadster days with these large roadsters, the motor were large and powerful. It is just not a traditional hot rod in any definition and the proportions are out of whack.


    Yes, there have been other European style roadsters and phaetons in the USA hot rod history, but we just don’t want to be the ones that cross the strict HAMB traditional hot rod lines. This one crossed that point and in a big front end way. YRMV
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  22. Hello,
    I didn't find (quickly enough) a suitable right side shot of a black 1929 Ford Model A roadster with the top up to post and say, "I Photoshopped it."
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  23. 19Fordy
    Joined: May 17, 2003
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    Remember, that was "the look" designers desired when those cars were produced.
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  24. 64 DODGE 440
    Joined: Sep 2, 2006
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    64 DODGE 440
    from so cal

    Looks great to me. It could leak oil in my driveway any time it wanted to.
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  25. Quick gut response,,,
    Reversed wedge shape and wide end illogically headed forward.
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  26. Hey jnaki
    When did Duesenberg become European?
  27. drtrcrV-8
    Joined: Jan 6, 2013
    Posts: 1,328


    Stop for a moment to enjoy it for what it is & how it relates to it's time period... Besides : how many of us are EVER going to own/be-involved-with any Duesenberg, let alone a Duesenberg Roadster?
  28. Looks a bit like it´s leaving it´s back wheels behind, but it´s far from bad.
    Actually my main gripe on a second look is that the bonnet line is much higher than the trunk.
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  29. Put the top down....perfect. I’ll take it :)
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