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Discussion in 'Traditional Hot Rods' started by J.Ukrop, Feb 8, 2019.

  1. J.Ukrop
    Joined: Nov 10, 2008
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  2. wvenfield
    Joined: Nov 23, 2006
    Posts: 5,506


    I think it became in vogue in large part because it has become so expensive to paint a car.
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  3. roadsterman32
    Joined: Dec 25, 2006
    Posts: 162

    from wi

    I fully agree with your love of the original patina cars. I particularly like cars which are survivors of the era's that all the new builds try to emulate. I am fortunate to own two cars of the type, both 32 fords. One a 5 window built in 56 with all the original paint, interior and old chrome, the other a roadster that still wears the primer applied in 53 and is built as a period correct car. What I find interesting is how little these cars actually draw the attention of the magazine types. While I hear almost everyone say don't touch those cars, leave em like they are, what I see coverage of are the new builds that look like the old builds. I appreciate those cars and find some of the new ideas applied very interesting. However, with a few exceptions, the coverage seems to be about shiny and new, or at least shiny and restored heritage cars. I am glad some of you leave'em alone.
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  4. Flathead Dave
    Joined: Mar 21, 2014
    Posts: 3,795

    Flathead Dave
    from So. Cal.

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  5. alchemy
    Joined: Sep 27, 2002
    Posts: 18,607


    I like real old paint.
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  6. BrandonB
    Joined: Feb 24, 2006
    Posts: 3,312

    from nor cal

    Wabi-sabi aesthetics = flawed beauty.
    Last edited: Feb 8, 2019
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  7. squirrel
    Joined: Sep 23, 2004
    Posts: 52,357


    you had me, right up to "updated underpinnings and smallblock power."

  8. 40FORDPU
    Joined: Mar 15, 2009
    Posts: 3,471

    from Yelm, Wa
    1. Northwest HAMBers

    My '39 has old weathered, chipped, scarred paint from my guess the early sixties.
    I will never paint it, it is an old Hot Rod, and that is it's appeal for me.
    Not into fake patina, rust, or either of them clear coated.
  9. typo41
    Joined: Jul 8, 2011
    Posts: 2,572

    Member Emeritus

    And, I might be wrong, but din't the car get involved in an accident and they had to 'match' the fix to the patina?

    I have wondered, when does patina just become a rusty old car, I plan to address this with my upcoming rebuild of my 40 pickup. Junk 2.jpg
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  10. verde742
    Joined: Aug 11, 2010
    Posts: 5,929


    yes it was a horrible wreck....
  11. Big Plan Dan
    Joined: Sep 16, 2015
    Posts: 137

    Big Plan Dan

    Rust and patina give any car an extra dimension...a sense of history that makes one wonder where the car has been, who drove it, how it was stored, how it got into the current owner's hands and so on. Psychologically, the same car with fresh paint dates back only as far as the paint job.
  12. 40oz
    Joined: Sep 2, 2018
    Posts: 22

    from kAnSas

    C4C98228-D3C6-40D1-96B9-13CBEB869F28.jpeg Typo41 asks... “When does Patina become just a rusty ol car?”....

    Somewhere between here and there I’m guessing ...

    Paint applied to mine back in the 60s ... gonna leave it just as it is ... perfect....
  13. 2935ford
    Joined: Jan 6, 2006
    Posts: 3,785


    I haven't had one of my Hot Rods painted since the mid 70's. Back then I paid $180 for a tutone job on my '55 Chev drop top. Jump to the early 00's and I was quoted $10k to paint a one color '49 F1.....that was the end of that. Now mind you that at that quote the guy probably didn't want the job still would have been thousands to paint it.
    Every rod after that I buy seem never to be nicely painted as they ask more money than I'm willing to spend. So I look for the ones that are much more "worn in" but have good sheet metal and bones and go from there.
    At one time I liked nicely painted rods but the old hmmmmm where can I park it to not get scratched, bumped, dented anxiety is gone. My current rods go anywhere, park anyplace without worry about all that. If that's patina......then, right now, I like it! :).
    Last edited: Apr 25, 2019
  14. John Starr
    Joined: Sep 14, 2016
    Posts: 130

    John Starr

    I discovered the appeal of patina in the 1980's when I could not afford to repaint my faded hot rod in my college years.

    Some folks asked when I was going to repaint it, the others said it looked meaner this way. One thing's for certain: it was far more fun to drive faded and beaten. It was just care-free, with no time wasted on wax jobs, and no door ding worries.

    I stopped parking it it the empty back parking lots and just crammed in between the riff raff wherever I went. Cranking it up between two grocery-getters and their startled drivers was always delightful. (this thing was extremely loud)

    It was just a loud, fast hot rod -- and it still turned heads. My level of enjoyment skyrocketed, and my stress level plummeted. Patina rocks.
  15. ibflyin
    Joined: Feb 23, 2009
    Posts: 220

    from Tulsa, OK

    It's nice that the patina look is "en-vogue". Regardless, my wife and I like enjoying our vintage rides by driving them. Of the last three vintage vehicles we bought, we purposely made part of the criteria the paint be "presentable, but sweaty with a few blemishes ok" partially because I don't like doing paint and body work, but also that would not be paranoid to drive and enjoy them.
  16. WiredSpider
    Joined: Dec 29, 2012
    Posts: 1,058


    Nice,original patina is cool.
    Fake patina,not so much
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  17. redo32
    Joined: Jul 16, 2008
    Posts: 1,999


    Complete story on
  18. verde742
    Joined: Aug 11, 2010
    Posts: 5,929


    by ANY ONES standard this is a mess, so sad..

    Thanks REDO, ya beat me to the picture..
  19. Mr48chev
    Joined: Dec 28, 2007
    Posts: 31,838


    While I don't believe that every rod needs a 10K + paint job this "patina" crap and "preserving it's originality" by letting some rides rot into the ground has gone way too far. You wonder how big the rust holes in the cowl of that 32 have to get before the owner decides he has to do something with it.
    I'd far rather see a hot rod that was solid and rust free and having an obvious spray can or brushed on Rust-Oleum paint job than see it suffer though cancer like that because the owner is too hard headed to repair it while it can be repaired.
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  20. silverdome
    Joined: Aug 23, 2007
    Posts: 556


    To me fake patina is just a bad paint job. On this '32 where they tried to match it up after a terrible accident, I can accept their reasoning but knowing that it was faked changes my view of the car. Maybe it should have just been restored to look nicer all the way around and give it a new lease on the next chapter of it's life.
  21. jimmy six
    Joined: Mar 21, 2006
    Posts: 12,172

    jimmy six

    The first time I saw pa-shitta was on a rusty shovel in my dad's backyard leaning up on a fence probably in 1949...I didn't know about any of this back then. If I could have, I guess the best thing to have done was clearcoat it and wait until now an sell it for a $1.00.:D
  22. Petejoe
    Joined: Nov 27, 2002
    Posts: 11,534

    from Zoar, Ohio

    I’d probably be enamored with a car with patina like that for many years. But sooner or later if it became a keeper, I’d bet I’d paint it.
    I just tire of the same look after a while whether it be paint or patina
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  23. indyjps
    Joined: Feb 21, 2007
    Posts: 5,183


    I love faded worn paint, but the paint still has to be there. This car is a good example.

    Being in the midwest its very difficult to find one. Worn paint comes with the bottom 6 inches of the car missing.
  24. alchemy
    Joined: Sep 27, 2002
    Posts: 18,607


    I don't really think Don's cowl is rusting through. I bet he doesn't leave it sitting outside in the Southern California rain.

    I have a 32 sedan with similar paint. We built it into a hot rod a dozen years ago, and have been driving it ever since. There were a few bare metal spots on the body where the 70 year old paint chipped away. Those same spots might have a touch of orange color on the bare metal now, but nowhere near rusted away. Don't over react. A rain shower or car wash now and then won't rot this car into scrap.

    Last edited: Feb 8, 2019
  25. 49ratfink
    Joined: Feb 8, 2004
    Posts: 18,379

    from California

    the best part of that 32 is showing people the before pictures after you put a nice paint job on it and tell people "look how big a piece of shit it used to be"

    I don't mind faded paint, but that is just messed up paint
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  26. BLAKE
    Joined: Aug 10, 2002
    Posts: 2,779


    I like patina... just don't call it a rat rod.

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  27. redo32
    Joined: Jul 16, 2008
    Posts: 1,999


    I saw Don's car before I knew the details of it's resurrection and the later crash. I looked it over pretty close and could not determine what was original patina and what was expertly matched. In several trips to SoCal I always noticed his car so I know he drives it a lot and it is well maintained and cared for.
  28. dana barlow
    Joined: May 30, 2006
    Posts: 4,827

    dana barlow
    from Miami Fla.
    1. Y-blocks

  29. jimmy six
    Joined: Mar 21, 2006
    Posts: 12,172

    jimmy six

    When you clear coat rust and welds you've opened it up. Love your car. It I had it I'd strip it and paint it a color ... not flat either. But I don't have it.... you do
  30. nochop
    Joined: Nov 13, 2005
    Posts: 2,924

    from norcal

    This is where a “that sucks” button comes in handy
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