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Pre-War Ford Trivia... Know your Stuff?

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  1. Jive-Bomber
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  2. Flat-Foot
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    cool thread! Looking forward to the answers
     
  3. Gearhead Graphics
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    OK, I have a guess on one answer.... but im too lazy to find the rest.

    Safety from pedal to wheel, would that be the mechanical activated brakes? ended in 41?
     
  4. 1. Black
    2. Model T's...no idea how many over shadowed the A's
    3. ?
    4. 1929 had outside door handles, 1928 did not
    5. Last year of roadster and Phaeton was 1937- very rare cars
    6. 1939 was the last year for the rumble seat
    7. Mechanical brakes, they changed to hydraulic in 1939
    8. 1934-1937
    9. They are wide 5 wheels with hydraulic brakes...not sure what is "1939 only" about the drums
    10. V8-60- meaning 60 HP
     
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  5. eaglebeak
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    #1...We know it's black. Why was it black? Did it dry quicker?
     
  6. alchemy
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    Same answers as Chris except for:
    1. Black because it was essentially cheaper and more durable. See http://www.mtfca.com/encyclo/P-R.htm#paint4
    2. T's by the millions more.
    5. I'd say '36 on the phaeton. Never seen a '37 phaeton.
    7. Went to cables in '37, so was it still "steel" from pedal to wheel?
    9. Different offset inside to make room for the wheel cylinder in the new hydro brakes.

    And I didn't cheat on #1, I had read that info a long time ago. Just wanted to give you guys some research to back me up.
     
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    3. Edsel Ford
     
  8. hendo0601
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    I would guess you could have any color as long as it is black for two reasons...1) only offering one color of paint cuts down on production cost and overhead from having to purchase multiple colors and 2) a sort of "communism" because if everyone has a black car then everyone is the same and you cannot be considered special or privelidged for having a car of a different color. No actual historical factual basis for these answers, purely guessing here...
     
  9. I never knew why black...I figured it was cheapest.

    Ford did make phaetons in 1937- very rare! I'll post a pic
     
  10. junk yard kid
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    2. about 11 million
     
  11. eaglebeak
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    Very early Model T's were blue with black fenders.
     
  12. 26 roadster
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    Ford black paint was varnish and soot from his plant chimneys, it only took two coats (brush) other colors took three. story I was told.
     
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    1. Henry Ford famously said that Model T buyers could have their car any color they wanted as long as it was black. Do you know why he only painted the cars black for so many years?
    it dried faster
    2. Which one did Ford make more of: Model T’s or Model A’s, and by how much, roughly?
    5 million more t's
    3. Who lead the Model A styling team (because Henry could care less about cosmetics)?
    edsel
    4. How can you tell a 1928 Ford Model A Roadster from a 1929 model at a glance?
    outside door handles on 29
    5. What was the last year Ford offered a Roadster? How about a Phaeton model?
    37
    6. What was the last year Ford offered a Rumble Seat?
    39
    7. When Henry referred to his cars having “the safety of steel from pedal to wheel”, what was he referring to, and when did that change?
    steel rods or cables for mechanical brakes
    8. The Stromberg 97 is one of the most beloved carburetors in hot rodding. What years did they actually come stock on Ford’s from the factory?
    36
    9. Why are 1939 Ford brake drums unique to that year?
    wide 5 for juice brakes, but 37-38 were the same drums I though?
    10. Why was the smaller Ford Flathead (offered 1937-40) called and why?
    v8-60 - 60 horses
     
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    <TABLE style="WIDTH: 100%" border=1 cellSpacing=1 cellPadding=1 sizcache="13" sizset="45"><TBODY sizcache="13" sizset="45"><TR><TD style="WIDTH: 25%">1937 Model 78 DeLuxe
    </TD><TD style="WIDTH: 25%">Weight
    </TD><TD style="WIDTH: 25%">Price
    </TD><TD style="WIDTH: 25%">Production
    </TD></TR><TR><TD style="WIDTH: 25%">Roadster, 2/4P
    </TD><TD style="WIDTH: 25%">2,576
    </TD><TD style="WIDTH: 25%">694
    </TD><TD style="WIDTH: 25%">1,250
    </TD></TR><TR><TD style="WIDTH: 25%">Phaeton, 5P
    </TD><TD style="WIDTH: 25%">2,691
    </TD><TD style="WIDTH: 25%">749
    </TD><TD style="WIDTH: 25%">3,723
    </TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE>
     
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    Got em all. The bodies were black lacquer because it dried fastest, but on the early cars there were very many color options. By early were talking brass era.
     
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    37-39 front drums interchange, and 36-39 at the rear.
    36 fronts are unique and are not directly compatible with hydraulic brakes.




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    Would this be because of the longer spindle snout?
     
  18. nrgwizard
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    Didn't Fords' ad men refer to the steel rod/cable system as "steel-dralic"?

    As for the paint on the 'T's, I thought I've read that they used Japan Drier for a faster/harder dry, which was measured in days(?), but also thought I've seen pics of the painting process that flowed the paint over the steel, & excess ran down into troughs, which was collected & reused. Although I couldn't find those pics now for my weight in $100 bills...

    Marcus...
     
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    Yep.

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  20. jkeesey
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    If this picture goes through its supposed to be a 1914 T getting painted
     

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  22. Flat-Foot
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    Never knew they painted them with the interior already in.
     
  23. jkeesey
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    Neither did I. I read through one of my original T assembly manuals and it doesn't mention when they got painted. It goes through stamping the sheet metal then straight into interior install.
     
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    I read years ago about the inventor Charles Kettering and his dealings with Henry Ford. Kettering made a fortune after inventing the electric starter for the automobile industry and spent the rest of his life as an inventor and philanthropist. One of his more famous inventions was sprayable paint - he offered it to Ford but HF told him he wasn't interested. Kettering got HF to eat lunch with him and again put the sales pitch on him for sprayable paint, and again was told no. Kettering walked HF out to his car after their lunch and was told by HF something to the effect of "that's not my car, my car is black." Kettering said "no, this is your car, I just had my guys paint it while we were eating. What do you think about sprayable paint now?" If I remember correctly the time to brush paint a car back then was days as opposed to hours, so you can imagine how much Ford's profitability was impacted by spraying their cars. The article I got this story from was printed in Smithsonian magazine several years ago - Kettering was a genuine genius and a fascinating man. He was also handicapped but I can't recall if he was nearly blind or nearly deaf. Truly a great American.
     
  25. I believe about 15 million model t's were made and about 4.8 million model A's.
     
  26. I had heard Ford Dipped there bodies. Not brush painted. But that may be only the fenders.
     
  27. Deuce Daddy Don
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    Yer right HITCH HIKER!
    Henry DIPPED ALL the parts---Never brushed---I don't recall the run off being returned, but might be.
    Yes the last year of roadsters was 1937,---The pix above on the '37 must be another body style,-----The windshield is NOT removable, looks like roll up windows too.
     
  28. squash
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    I thought pheaton a were more of a roadster?(no side windows) last would be 1936?.....correct me if I'm wrong please?
     


  29. In 37 Ford made a limited number of roadsters and phaetons...they had no side windows HOWEVER the windshield surround was fixed to the body as opposed to earlier years being removable

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  30. squash
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    Chris dude your the man! I didn't know that!....I would say those Are rare as hens teeth! Wicked lookin ride tho! Thanks man!


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