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Discussion in 'The Hokey Ass Message Board' started by Ned Ludd, Aug 8, 2011.

  1. Ned Ludd
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    From the same source:
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    Ruxton roadster, by Raulang.
     
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    Bugatti Type 38:
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  4. RainierHooker
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    I don't know if one of these was posted here, but in any case here's the Cord L-29 La Grande Speedster...

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    ...that car just has "it".


    Posted using my Lil' Orphan Annie Secret Society Decoder Pin
     
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    Another chance discovery:
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    Sensaud de Lavaud saloon by Labourdette. The positions of the A and B posts relative to the wheelbase wants some geometric analysis: very delicately done.
     
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    1 1931-daimler-double--1_460x0w.jpg One of my favorites. Daimler Double Six
     
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    The coupe is much more attractive than the saloon.

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    Here is the chassis.

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    I'd forgotten that I'd seen that before. Cast aluminium alloy chassis, I believe. I wonder what those strut-tower-like things are: air suspension? It also appears that the side-hinged door carrying the spare was integral to the frame.

    I wonder if any survive. I see that you yourself posted about Sensaud de Lavaud in jimi'shemi291's Extinct Makes thread. Also from that thread: http://asso.proxiland.fr/avec/default.asp?a=7631&b=&m - though it seems that there were illustrations that have disappeared.

    Front view:
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    I think I have a couple of more pictures somewhere. As far as I know no cars have survived and production seems to be measured on one hand.
     
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    Sliding pillar rear suspension ? Like lancia or Morgan use on the front
     
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    1927 Scripps-Booth Da Vinci Pup prototype, courtesy of Marc Hendrix:
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    Here's a better pic:
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    If I remember correctly it's a rubber shock type thingy in those cylinders, I have a small description of the car in a book somewhere in a box...
     
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    My Burgess-Wise mentions "ifs by rubber in compression" and nothing else. No mention of Sensaud de Lavaud at all in Georgano or Scheel.
     
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    From 2 weeks ago at the Automedon show in Le Bourget next to Paris
    Panhard valve sleeve racers:
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    Avion Voisin:
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    Striking paint scheme on unknown French chassis:
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    Suspected to be a Mathis or a Donnet.
     
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    I believe one of the gal is Mathis wife.
     
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    Wrong, the lady at the wheel is Miss Delaunay, a famed artist and designer in the 20's, picture taken in 1925.
    Still I don't recall of any Donnet boattail. Plus Donnet had 4 parallel leaf springs. Mathis had a more "cathedral" look to their grilles.
     
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    This would be the American art deco entry. 1418081222232.jpg
     
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    Striking paint scheme, the cubist or Mondrian influence?

    On further examination it resembles linoleum patterns from the early 30s.
     
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    1934 Delage "Aerosport" by Letourneur & Marchand:
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    I find nothing further on this car. I suspect that it succumbed to WWII or was rebodied in a more predictable idiom.
     
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    Another striking graphic treatment, by Henri Binder on a Citroën C6:
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    Another C6, perhaps factory coachwork? Graphics by artist Sonia Delaunay:
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    Apparently this is an Isotta-Fraschini:
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    1929 Stutz, Hibbard & Darrin:
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    From this week end Reims show a 1924 Avion Voisin C4
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    I absolutely love that paint scheme.
     
  28. I love these paint jobs - wish we could see the colours on those old photos. They remind me of the camoflage on some of the old German WW1 aircraft. (There is a traditional use for Iron Crosses! :D)

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  30. Ned Ludd
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    Found in the course of a search in response to a question which arose out of a recent thread on later-type Victorias:
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    1921 Heine-Velox (earlier-type) Victoria.
     
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