Register now to get rid of these ads!

POS or NEG Battery Disconnect switch

Discussion in 'The Hokey Ass Message Board' started by The37Kid, Mar 28, 2013.

?
  1. Positive Side

    131 vote(s)
    52.6%
  2. Negative Side

    118 vote(s)
    47.4%
  1. child9
    Joined: Mar 25, 2013
    Posts: 8

    child9
    Member
    from Austin

    Last edited: Apr 1, 2013
  2. ANDEREGG TRIBUTE
    Joined: Jan 1, 2008
    Posts: 1,385

    ANDEREGG TRIBUTE
    Member
    from Bordertown

    I imagine as a "battery disconnect" either side of the battery will do, but the "normal" method I have been exposed to is to switch the +pos side of the battery.

    Now as a "kill switch" that has only been touched on here this is what I would recommend to prevent the back feeding as stated earlier through the alternator.

    [​IMG]
     
  3. Carter
    Joined: Mar 18, 2006
    Posts: 1,522

    Carter
    Member

    Shoestring, Kerry, Anderegg, this is the argument that makes sense from a vehicle electrical shut off point of view. The alternator does act like a battery, and, as stated, if the ground circuit uses the chassis and engine, the alternator ground can't really be switched.
    Kerry, a lot of the electron talk, while it doesn't necessarily matter in this conversation, was just being brought up to dispute those who were saying that the electricity flowed from positive to negative and that the positive is the 'feed' side.



    Sent from my DROID device using the TJJ mobile app
     
  4. Carter
    Joined: Mar 18, 2006
    Posts: 1,522

    Carter
    Member

    Also, the positive ground comment was not 'trolling'. My car is 6V positive ground.
    Now, Kerry, a question for you. With the requirement that the battery isolator be up front, from a safety point of view, it would seem to me that the battery would be better off up there as well. Is there a rule requiring the battery to be in the rear, or is it a matter of weight or lack of room up front?

    Sent from my DROID device using the TJJ mobile app
     
  5. child9
    Joined: Mar 25, 2013
    Posts: 8

    child9
    Member
    from Austin

    Awesome. This is why I'm here...to learn something. The positive ground setup is interesting. Are there any devices in the car that are polarity sensitive and require this per the original design? I can't think of anything that would be...unless a generator or ammeter of some type was. What year is the car? I would guess it is late 19 teens to twenties. Thanks!
     
  6. Carter
    Joined: Mar 18, 2006
    Posts: 1,522

    Carter
    Member

    It's a 1929 Ford. Most cars were positive ground into the late 1940's, and some British cars until the 60's. Boats may have gone even longer.

    Sent from my DROID device using the TJJ mobile app
     
  7. Bad Eye Bill
    Joined: Sep 1, 2010
    Posts: 841

    Bad Eye Bill
    Member
    from NB Canada

    As far as I know, GM went from 6 V pos ground to 12 V neg ground in '55. Ford and Chrysler in '56.
     
  8. subieseven
    Joined: Sep 19, 2011
    Posts: 4

    subieseven
    Member
    from New York

    so Bob- which side do you vote for?
     
  9. after this thread; he decided to use hand signals, carbon gas lights, hand crank and a magneto.
     
  10. Kerrynzl
    Joined: Jun 20, 2010
    Posts: 2,954

    Kerrynzl
    Member

    The isolator is best placed as close to the battery as possible. Any wiring between the battery and the isolator is exposed to a dead short [in an accident situation ]

    Motorsport NZ [an affiliation of the FIA] requires the isolator to be at the base of the windshield on the cowl or the fender with a blue triangle and a lightning bolt decal .
    [​IMG]

    The tech inspector would occasionally walk along the "Dummy Grid" and flick off all the isolator switches ,and any car still running wasn't allowed on the track.
    Now because we are all seeking the elusive 50/50 weight distribution, it is common practice to put the battery in the trunk.
    That is why I used a solenoid on the main starter feed , and the wire to the isolator switch has a fusible link [at the battery post]
     
  11. The37Kid
    Joined: Apr 30, 2004
    Posts: 30,745

    The37Kid
    Member

    ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^Keerynzl, WHY are there arrows on the LEFT and RIGHT of the OFF notice? I sure would like to have things clearly marked so the fire could stop quickly. Bob
     
    Last edited: Apr 4, 2013
  12. Kerrynzl
    Joined: Jun 20, 2010
    Posts: 2,954

    Kerrynzl
    Member

    That is a picture I plagiarised off the 'net, from a vendor selling them.

    We would buy a universal decal kit for motorsport cars, what we had to do was trim off the arrows so it showed "OFF" only

    Kerry
     
  13. The37Kid
    Joined: Apr 30, 2004
    Posts: 30,745

    The37Kid
    Member

    THANKS! Bob :)
     
  14. I'll Bet He Does Both:eek:
     

Share This Page

Register now to get rid of these ads!

Archive

Copyright © 1995-2021 The Jalopy Journal: Steal our stuff, we'll kick your teeth in. Terms of Service. Privacy Policy.

Atomic Industry
Forum software by XenForo™ ©2010-2014 XenForo Ltd.