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  1. Hnstray
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    A very nice example of what is my favorite body style/trim level of '58 Chevy....owned one much like this, the main difference being mine was all black....though the two tone looks great!

    Ray
     
  2. MO54Frank
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    I guess Steve’s American Graffiti 1958 Hardtop helped improve the car’s image, but really when/where I grew up they got no respect. You could hardly give one away as the 57 Chevy was king... now I like them.
    About 15 or so years ago I saw a beautiful Impala Hardtop with air ride suspension. I talked briefly with the owner. He said the air ride parts were the hardest to get and the most expensive area of the restoration.
     
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  3. Hnstray
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    @MO54Frank .....

    An interesting story I have heard from a knowledgeable source is that the '58 Chevy was intended to be the '57 model and would have carried over into '58 ...presumably with some minor facelift changes. The story goes that development of the senior GM model (Olds, Buick and Cadillac) had some difficult engineering challenges and work was concentrated on bringing those cars to market on time and Chevy/Pontiac new bodies were delayed and the existing shells were facelifted.

    Now there are two separate lines of reasoning on the accuracy of that story line. On the one side is, the '58 Chevy/Pontiac body design cues and chassis configurations are scaled down versions of the '57 Olds, Buick and Cadillac models. If the Chevy/Pontiac had their '58 bodies in '57 it would have been an across the board model changeover for GM and instead of being single model year body shells, they would have been on the traditional two year cycle. That should have amortized the development costs over two years instead of one. Compounding the cost factor was the reduced sales of all '58 models due to the recession that set in that year.

    True as that may have been for Chevrolet/Pontiac models, the '58 Olds and Buicks had much more radical changes to their body styles and trim between '57/'58 than was common for a carryover shell. But it was a time of wretched excess in U.S. car styling and redevelopment costs seemed to be ignored. Only Cadillac was more alike than different for '57/'58.

    And they were all swept away by the across the board radical styling changes for '59 models and that put the two year body shell use back on track.

    Ray
     
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  4. Dick Stevens
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    I remember reading in one of the magazines about the 58 design being intended to be released in 57, but that gave us the iconic 57 that we wouldn't have had without the engineering problems they had!
     
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    More kustom 58 please
     
  8. Hnstray
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    ‘57, ‘58 or ‘59 Mercury.........I think ‘58. They are all very similar, but not the same.

    Ray
     
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    Hello,

    In order to be somewhat period correct, those garish white letter Firehawk tires needed a cover up. They were not the Firestone tires we used in 1958-64. If we wanted white letters, we used school chalk to see what it was going to look like for detailing. If they looked good, then the model car Testor’s white paint came out for the final touch. But, most of the time, those mini white lettering in chalk came off instantly, while the painted versions came off with any curb rubbing, road grime or high power spray washing hoses.

    So, most of the time, there was no lettering, just plain good looking blackwall tires. Firestone, Uniroyal, or Goodyear were the top selling tires. But, this version of the Firehawk is a modern version with all season speed ratings. Not HAMB traditional tires with the Firehawk letters.

    Jnaki
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    So, much better, IMHO

    This look with the American Racing 5 spoke Mag Wheels on blackwall tires was what every teenager wanted on their hot rods and cruisers. But, they were just too far out of reach of most teenage pocket books, including mine.


     
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  11. @Hnstray - with regards to the '58, something I remember reading some number of years ago, was like you said the '58 was supposed to be the '57 for the most part, but part of the equation as I understand it was four headlight cars were being sought out for '57 but the government(?) didn't approve it until the '58 model year. I'm to understand the '57 was Chevy's response to a shortened(?) styling timeline due to the 4-headlight delay, which was then based on the '55/'56 platform. I wasn't born until '63, so I wasn't 'there'. Is it possible Americans & Canadians didn't take to the new 4 headlight designs quickly in '58 having had 2 headlight designs for so many years? (in response to your not being fond of the '58 when they appeared). I think it makes a certain amount of sense since Chevy (GM?) seemed to design in two-year cycles at that time - '53/'54; '55/'56; '59/'60; '61/'62; '63/'64; '65/'66...

    Gotta56forme/Scott
     
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  12. Hnstray
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    @gotta56forme .......I had forgotten about the single/dual headlight issue that confronted auto manufacturers in that period. It did affect what they produced, but in several cases....Mopar and FOMOCO, in particular, they designed front fenders that could accommodate the dual lamps but fitted them with single lamps. The ‘57 Plymouth, Dodge, Desoto and Chrysler all had a wide enough headlight brow or ‘pod’ but were equipped with single lamps.

    However, I also seem to recall the single vs dual fitment had to do with trim level in some instances. For example, in Chrysler and Desoto the top line trim (New Yorker and Firedome) got dual lamps and lower line (Windsor and Fireflite ...may have the Desoto models reversed) got singles. But that still leaves jurisdictional conflicts as individual States had to approve the lamp systems for sale within their borders.

    It was an interesting and fun time because of the excitement of new model introduction being so hyped.

    Ray
     
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  13. for fun..
    if Chevrolet had intended there to be a '55/'56 styling cycle, then a new '57/'58 styling cycle... If the '58 had debuted in '57 (and we didn't end up with the iconic '57), makes you wonder what the second year "'58" car might have looked like... assuming that it would have shared the beltline & roof designs like the styling cycles before and after did.
     
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    You guys are freaking me out with this talk of a world without '57 Chevys...
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    Here's a great, 'flaked, not faked or half baked '58
     
  17. Dick Stevens
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    Yeah, and if this had been what the 57 looked like, what would the 58 have looked like?
     
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