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History Petit Pataud In Motion

Discussion in 'Traditional Hot Rods' started by Ryan, Jan 2, 2023.

  1. Ryan
    Joined: Jan 2, 1995
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    Ryan submitted a new blog post:

    Petit Pataud In Motion


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  2. Tim
    Joined: Mar 2, 2001
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    from KCMO

    Man I can’t imagine needing a race car and thinking “hmmm caddy”
  3. winduptoy
    Joined: Feb 19, 2013
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    I'll take some coffee with that roll
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  4. Ryan
    Joined: Jan 2, 1995
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    Yeah... You gotta put yourself in 1950 and limit yourself to what they knew. The Cadillac was fast, exotic, and built better than just about anything else coming out of Detroit. So... those things seemed to be given priority over weight ratios, stopping, staying flat, etc... you know, the things you need to race.

    Makes ya think the goal might have been to just finish... not compete.

    Regardless, this was the era that Briggs and other Americans were learning a lot of stuff that folks in Europe had years and years invested in developing - fundamental things.
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  5. junkman8888
    Joined: Jan 28, 2009
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    If you want to see a real show look up Tom Kiristensen muscling a Sqarebird around Goodwood.
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  6. DDDenny
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    from oregon

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  7. 302GMC
    Joined: Dec 15, 2005
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    from Idaho

    I'm guessing Mr. Cunningham's Cad was set up a bit better ....
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  8. Ryan
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    His original plan was to run the Cad motor in a Ford... But the folks at Le Mans wouldn't allow it.

    In the end, this car averaged something like 80mph over the 24 hour period... not fast... but it finished and I think just about everyone was surprised by that - not just because the car was completely inadequate for the task at hand, but because there was so little experience on the team. In fact, between the two Cads and four drivers, only one had ever even seen the course before.

    And ironically, these two Cads were more successful than the famous Briggs Corvettes that would follow.
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  9. Ratmother
    Joined: Jan 23, 2022
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    A639B08D-F630-4959-8BE9-8C0284286DEA.jpeg 00A81B5B-8AB3-49D1-82D2-EC273D3D5E7A.jpeg Both cars at Laguna Seca four months ago…part of the kickoff celebrating the centennial of 24 Hours of Lemans.
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  10. Here's Derek driving the '50 Cadillac at the 2022 Goodwood Members Meeting:

    Derek Drinkwater driving the Briggs Cunningham '50 Cadillac at the '22 Goodwood Members Meeting.jpg
    image from Derek Drinkwater's April 14, 2022 Facebook post
  11. Bigmac48
    Joined: Apr 3, 2017
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    from Dundalk Md

  12. Jim Wood
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    Jim Wood

  13. Jim Wood
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    Jim Wood

    I worked the gallery at the REVS yesterday up close and personal. Interesting facts it averaged 85MPH for 24 hours. C Miles and Sam Collier co-drove the car. It still had radio, clock, heater etc. They added a Sun Tach and seat belts only, took off the hub caps, fender skirts painted the white and went racing. It has a trailer hitch. After shipping by boat to Europe they trailered the LeMontsure' car on a trailer to the racetrack. The other car was 13MPH faster with the Gruman alloy body but Briggs covered the wheel wells so no air could get to the brakes a big mistake as the car would not stop on the tight turns. The 331 Cadillac engine was the fastest in America at the time.
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  14. dana barlow
    Joined: May 30, 2006
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    dana barlow
    from Miami Fla.
    1. Y-blocks

    At the time,I bet,fun was #1
  15. lucas doolin
    Joined: Feb 7, 2013
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    lucas doolin

    Google translate has "petit pataud" as "little clumsy" but pataud is the pejorative derived from "patte" so a better translation might be something like "little clobberfoot" which likely described the way the Cad plowed through the turns.
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  16. sololobo
    Joined: Aug 23, 2006
    Posts: 8,378


    Another excellent video, this is so cool, and I am very interested in big cars and road racing events. I have sold my old truck and am piloting a big Chrysler 300c now and am going road racing styling; an old friend showed up in the form of a 1961 Ford F-100 Unibody truck, and it will be the road support vehicle. An old mans attempt to stay in the game!
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